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Quote (Ghot @ 17 Apr 2017 01:26)
I Googled: Carl Vinson strike force, and then read about 10-12 results, till I found the make-up.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_strike_group

It is composed of roughly 7,500 personnel, an aircraft carrier, at least one cruiser, a destroyer squadron of at least two destroyers and/or frigates,[2] and a carrier air wing of 65 to 70 aircraft.

So not an anti air force then.

e/ next time someone asks you for a source it's basic practice to link a source. Just fyi.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_strike_group

It is composed of roughly 7,500 personnel, an aircraft carrier, at least one cruiser, a destroyer squadron of at least two destroyers and/or frigates,[2] and a carrier air wing of 65 to 70 aircraft.

So not an anti air force then.

e/ next time someone asks you for a source it's basic practice to link a source. Just fyi.




Oh, advice from a 2011. Thank you.
Those are just the main ships. There are also others.

I originally posted this on April 12th. Should've asked me for a link then. :/
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Oh, advice from a 2011. Thank you.
Those are just the main ships. There are also others.

I originally posted this on April 12th. Should've asked me for a link then. :/


Oh wow. An epeen fight. Well you got me beat bud. more fg, earlier join date. Well done. Shame none of that translates to knowledge of how to form and execute an argument.

Like how you claimed that ALL Trump was doing was moving dedicated anti-air towards NK to defend nearby nations from attack when strike force one is clearly a multipurpose strike force that has very little anti-air but plenty of everything else.
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Oh wow. An epeen fight. Well you got me beat bud. more fg, earlier join date. Well done. Shame none of that translates to knowledge of how to form and execute an argument.

Like how you claimed that ALL Trump was doing was moving dedicated anti-air towards NK to defend nearby nations from attack when strike force one is clearly a multipurpose strike force that has very little anti-air but plenty of everything else.


Well, pardon me. Next time I'll just call the Navy and say you didn't like the make-up of the strike force. Ofc, it also has attack vectors. It has a carrier for gawd's sake.
Do I need to post the cartoon again?

I've said it about 20 times now. We do not NEED to attack NK. That should be pretty obvious.

This is a midget 2017 Cold War. The US is VERY good at playing Cold War. We've had decades of practice, with countries that could easily be a threat, unlike NK.

Once again I'll post the cartoon. This IS what is going on...in real life right now. Furthermore, it's dead accurate.





/e You see how in the last panel, Kim is waiting for a response that's not coming? Or in the 2nd panel where his nuke breaks? This is how things are.
It's NOT how sensationalists are trying to make it.

/ee Yes, I know it's a 2013 cartoon. You should realize two things from that.
One...it was relevant in 2013. (we've been thru this before with NK)
Two...it resurfaced on the internet a few days ago, how convenient.

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Apr 16 2017 08:32pm
Nobody gives a crap about North Korea
Just a small cry baby that wants attention
Tbh why is it even a country, South Korea should just annex North Korea
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Well, pardon me. Next time I'll just call the Navy and say you didn't like the make-up of the strike force. Ofc, it also has attack vectors. It has a carrier for gawd's sake.
Do I need to post the cartoon again?

I've said it about 20 times now. We do not NEED to attack NK. That should be pretty obvious.

This is a midget 2017 Cold War. The US is VERY good at playing Cold War. We've had decades of practice, with countries that could easily be a threat, unlike NK.

Once again I'll post the cartoon. This IS what is going on...in real life right now. Furthermore, it's dead accurate.


http://i.imgur.com/2oYUdqR.jpg


/e You see how in the last panel, Kim is waiting for a response that's not coming? Or in the 2nd panel where his nuke breaks? This is how things are.
It's NOT how sensationalists are trying to make it.

/ee Yes, I know it's a 2013 cartoon. You should realize two things from that.
One...it was relevant in 2013. (we've been thru this before with NK)
Two...it resurfaced on the internet a few days ago, how convenient.


Sure thing man. Probably is. Doesn't mean we shouldn't be worried when Trump is at the helm and experts say NK's nuclear program is accelerating to where they will be able to strike the west coast of US within 4 years.

Things are coming to a head slowly - and Trump is just the kind of moron who could really fuck shit up.

As for the carrier strike force - it has almost no anti air and you claimed it was for anti ballistic missile purposes only. Why can' you admit when you're wrong?
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Sure thing man. Probably is. Doesn't mean we shouldn't be worried when Trump is at the helm and experts say NK's nuclear program is accelerating to where they will be able to strike the west coast of US within 4 years.

Things are coming to a head slowly - and Trump is just the kind of moron who could really fuck shit up.

As for the carrier strike force - it has almost no anti air and you claimed it was for anti ballistic missile purposes only. Why can' you admit when you're wrong?




I never said ONLY. Don't misquote me.

As for Trump, yes he's an idiot. The US govt. in a 3 part govt. The US will not let Trump do anything so stupid like you are worrying about.
Hell, he didn't even order the Syrian strike, he passed responsibility off to his generals.

There's a lot of young ppl on here. THAT"S why I'm arguing with you and the french guy. I lived through the cold war, the real one, NO ONE needs to have to go to sleep with crap like that over their heads.

Trump is an idiot, the US govt. is NOT. That's the message that needs to get beat to death. NOT the message of... OMG WWIII is coming. Cause it's not.


/e As for NK being able to hit the US with a nuke carrying ICBM...don't hold your breath. Even IF he manages to get one to wobble over here, we would just shoot it down.

You DO remember that both the US and Russia stood each other off for 40 years or so. And that was for many multiples of nukes, not just one wobbly ass one.
Look up this: DEW line

...and remember that is old and now unclassified info.

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I never said ONLY. Don't misquote me.

As for Trump, yes he's an idiot. The US govt. in a 3 part govt. The US will not let Trump do anything so stupid like you are worrying about.
Hell, he didn't even order the Syrian strike, he passed responsibility off to his generals.

There's a lot of young ppl on here. THAT"S why I'm arguing with you and the french guy. I lived through the cold war, the real one, NO ONE needs to have to go to sleep with crap like that over their heads.

Trump is an idiot, the US govt. is NOT. That's the message that needs to get beat to death. NOT the message of... OMG WWIII is coming. Cause it's not.


A huge amount of people in the senate right now are utterly retarded. This may be the dumbest senate ever in fact.

Never said ww3 is coming.

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A huge amount of people in the senate right now are utterly retarded. This may be the dumbest senate ever in fact.

Never said ww3 is coming.




No you said War with Korea, and then spent multiple posts explaining how it would/could blossom into WWIII. It could ( by tons of idiotic moves by tons of folks in multiple countries)...BUT, it won't.
There are 3 super powers, and they all KNOW that a nuclear exchange is absolute no win situation.

NK is no where's near a super power. They are no more than a wart on someone's backside, militarily. However, to countries close by geographically, and NOT super powers, they are a decided threat.
Which is why the US makes their carrier strike forces they way they do.
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Many are thinking politics in charge would be impacted in the same way than "normal" people. Applies even more in countries with high social inequalities.

War can be an opportunity for them;
- it maintain them in charge
- it can extend their powers
- they can even make profits over it (due their extended powers)
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