https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/joe-biden-worked-with-whistleblower-when-he-was-vice-president-officials-reveal

I think this was pretty fucking obvious, but here's your confirmation (From anonymous sources)

>The 2020 Democratic candidate with whom the CIA whistleblower had a "professional" tie is Joe Biden, according to intelligence officers and former White House officials.

I mean, considering it was a CIA officer in the white house and there's no other 2020 nominees who were in the white house it narrowed the list down to 1 name, but it could have been some contrived coincidence like how the whistleblower document was changed-at-same-time-but-unrelated-to-this. So its good to actually have the obvious part laid out.
So yeah, the 'whistleblower' was working for Joe Biden, and supported his presidential campaign.

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I honestly don't care much even if Biden is involved.

The part that annoys me is how long the media is willing to deepthroat this boring ass news story.

There's no treason, no violence, and absolutely zero reason for me to care about fucking Ukraine.

So the CIA official was both knowledgeable and important enough to come into contact with Joe Biden under the Obama administration, and also came into contact with officials in the Trump administration who relayed their concerns about the Zelensky call.

I know cultists can't look at reality in a semi-objective way, but do you guys realize this just confirms the whistle blower was an official with serious access and had intimate knowledge of what was going on in Ukraine?

And the former Trump official quoted is just engaging in baseless speculation.

Also, what evidence is there that the whistle blower supported Biden's campaign, or worked for him directly? CIA people brief various officials... so if you say he worked for Biden, you'll need to qualify that by saying he worked for all of the government officials he briefed. Otherwise you're just being a dishonest hack.




The president leveraging a meeting and taxpayer money in order to secure an investigation into his political opponent by Ukraine is something you should care about.

Forgot to mention...

The whistleblower's complaint has been corroborated. The rough transcript and Giuliani/White House admissions show that. So if you're dumb enough to believe that a whistleblower who *shocker* has political beliefs contrary to yours is not credible at all, that's cool. Let's just look at all the facts he pointed to. We don't have to take his word on any of it. You should support the administration being transparent to prove him wrong.

This post was edited by IceMage on Oct 10 2019 06:17pm

Dude, you have no EVIDENCE of anything. You accuse people of being cultists and not seeing things clearly.

YET, after all the BS the Dems have pulled since Trump was elected (and even a bit before)... YOU can't seem to see that they may just be full of it.

Biden admitted on tape that he did, exactly what Trump accused him of.
Schiff has been caught LYING twice now, to a Congressional hearing.
Nadler got kicked for repeatedly NOT following the House's OWN procedures.
Comey was busted for lying, cheating etc.
The Dossier was a hoax.
The FISA warrant was illegally obtained.
Everyone and their mother knows Hillary was a crook. She even purposely destroyed documents that she had been subpoenaed to provide.

How big of a stick do you need to be hit with, before YOU get... woke?


/e Btw, it will take a bit more than your word that the whistle blower's complaint has been corroborated. That's not even considering he went about making the complaint illegally. Conflict of interest, I think it's called.

This post was edited by Ghot on Oct 10 2019 06:32pm

The ICIG laid out that he supported a rival 2020 candidate to Trump and worked with a 2020 candidate, and the only conceivable one it could be is Biden, and now we have administration officials (note: NOT same person as the CIA officer quoted just before that) confirming it was Biden. I don't think there's much reason to doubt these details of the story.

We've seen over the past 3 years that the IC is teeming with politically motivated leakers and partisan officials who are hostile to Trump and willing to bend or break the rules to 'get him'. This whistleblower is not the first one, not the 10th one even. You were here for the winter of leaks under comey/mccabe during Trump's transition, but it kept going since then, Reality Winner, Natalie Edwards, that black FBI guy from minnesota, etc etc, list went on and on, Sessions spent his whole time before getting canned hunting them down. Given that we already know enough to say this official was aligned with Biden and worked with him during his white house years, the most reasonable interpretation is exactly what that one quoted official said- this person might have genuinely felt that Biden was being unfairly attacked, but that perception coming under the influence of political partisanship and hatred towards Trump. It doesn't require us to believe in a grand conspiracy, only the willingness of politically motivated individuals to loosely coordinate and bend some rules to drum up an excuse for impeachment. The guy might have been leaking to Schiff for years, and they got the bright idea of filing a whistleblower complaint over this one to use for impeachment. Is that a conspiracy, or is that a reasonable course of action in response to a perceived abuse of power?

What all this does give us is insight into the motivation and worldview of the whistleblower and what biases he holds, what details were compromising enough they didn't disclose them in hopes of bolstering the complaint, what loose sorts of coordination might have taken place to bend the rules.

At the end of the day all the whistleblower did was point to actual events that happened. Which is why I've constantly called this Trump spin irrelevant. The propaganda machine is chomping at the bit to have an individual they can sink their teeth into, because it's easier than defending Trump's obviously corrupt behavior. The whistleblower doesn't matter outside of the Trump cult. Because rational people are more worried about what our head of government does when he thinks people aren't listening or watching.

The both fortunate and unfortunate reality is that a president like Trump forces individuals inside the White House, State/Defense Departments, and Intelligence Community to leak. They're dealing with an unhinged, corrupt, ignorant executive. That necessarily results in leaking. You can't really fix that, and I'm not sure I would want it fixed. Americans should know when the most powerful guy in the country is a complete mess.

So, if and when a competent executive gets in, whether it's Biden, Warren, or some competent Republican, I'll criticize leaks. But right now it doesn't make sense to(at least in a general sense).

I really do hope you're just trolling.

Leaks are illegal, no matter who the president is. You take an oath, you stand by it.
The Dems better hope to god they pull off this not yet happening- impeachment. Cause if they don't, NO ONE is gonna vote Dem for a century, probably.


/e ...and after three plus years of BS it doesn't look like they are gonna come out on top.

This post was edited by Ghot on Oct 10 2019 06:52pm

We've seen more and more evidence that what Trump did wasn't bad, that the most inflammatory aspects of the accusation was false, that we've got a molehill not a mountain. And we're seeing that the bias and political motive of partisan democrats to try to trump up the charges, was also shared by the whistleblower.

We've seen over the past 3 years that the same leakers who accused Trump of being unhinged, corrupt or ignorant, turned out to be wrong, to be pursuing baseless conspiracy theories, and to be desperately searching for misconduct that wasn't there. They spent 2 years on Russiaburger only to find there was no 'there' there, but we also had stuff like leakers who thought Trump was hiding the SARs (nope, it was Mueller, for good reason), though Flynn was colluding with Russia, whatever. And then we found out that besides the leaks themselves, several of these officials were engaged in blatant, unethical and/or illegal misconduct of their own. The FISA abuses, unmasking, citing their own leaks to the news as corroboration, wiretapping, Comey's Le Carre movement with his laptop in a van and attempt to ambush Trump, the successful ambush of Flynn, the entire Dossier nonsense, McCabe's lies, Comey's lies, it goes on and on.

I see a pattern, I expect it to continue