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Oct 8 2019 07:16am
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Breaking — Ambassador Gordon Sondland has been told by the State Department to not appear this morning before the House regarding his role in the Ukraine scandal. His attorney said he has no choice but to comply with State Dept directive.


Weird strategy. Republicans don't care at all what Trump did, but they have called for transparency. Now the stonewalling begins. And the polls show support for impeachment is rising.
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Oct 8 2019 01:37pm
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/whistleblower-had-professional-tie-to-2020-democratic-candidate

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"The IG said [the whistleblower] worked or had some type of professional relationship with one of the Democratic candidates," said one person with knowledge of what was said.

"The IG said the whistleblower had a professional relationship with one of the 2020 candidates," said another person with knowledge of what was said.

"What [Atkinson] said was that the whistleblower self-disclosed that he was a registered Democrat and that he had a prior working relationship with a current 2020 Democratic presidential candidate," said a third person with knowledge of what was said.

All three sources said Atkinson did not identify the Democratic candidate with whom the whistleblower had a connection. It is unclear what the working or professional relationship between the two was.


oh oh oh ho ho.
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Oct 8 2019 01:45pm
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Does knowing a guy running for office exclude you from reporting crimes?

Or is ad hominem supposed to make us unconcerned with what the report is?

I'm not sure if there's anything in whistleblower law stating that you can't know certain people.

If it is a front runner I could be interesting but there's like 50 people running.

I might start following politics again.

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Oct 8 2019 01:45pm
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jesus could Biden be that shortsighted? could he honestly have thought no one would have an issue with his nepotism and that TDS would give him some victim status to overcome the headlines ahead?

otherwise any other candidate makes sense, 2 birds one stone. take down trump and biden with one headline.
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Oct 8 2019 01:52pm
I feel like getting my american citizenship just so i can vote trump 2020 hehe. Demonrats feel like they are above the law. No idea why that dumb bitch hilary clinton is commenting on trump when she herself had him investigated during 2016 election not to mention all the shady shit she has done. For someone who should be locked away in jail she sure has a big mouth.
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Oct 8 2019 01:54pm
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still all in on the smear campaign against the whistle blower is see. do you honestly think if you hacks just discredit him hard enough the whole thing will magically disappear?

trump's own ppl internally objected to his crooked behaviour (at least until being told that was totally not what the president intended and to immediately stop texting about it), and even the official white house version (still waiting for the real transcript that was hidden on a server for top secret information, not for "perfect" calls with other world leaders) can't really hide the obvious implication.

let alone the president going on national tv and directly asking foreign governments AGAIN to help him with his domestic campaign (to which the 'best' defense republican spin doctors could come up with is that trump was merely 'trolling' the press by doing so, just let that sink in for a moment)...

but hey, this will all be acceptable behaviour for a president if you can prove the whistle blower had dinner with a democrat once...
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Does knowing a guy running for office exclude you from reporting crimes?

Or is ad hominem supposed to make us unconcerned with what the report is?

I'm not sure if there's anything in whistleblower law stating that you can't know certain people.

If it is a front runner I could be interesting but there's like 50 people running.

I might start following politics again.


I don't think there's any world in which this plays out well and we learn that this whistleblower worked directly for Biden
We're at the confluence of;
  • There was no quid pro quo
  • What Trump did wasn't illegal
  • The whistleblower worked for Biden (? or who)
  • The whistleblower broke the law by going directly to Schiff and lied to the IG
  • Schiff broke the rules of the house committee by concealing it
  • Biden already admitted to doing a quid pro quo
  • The Bidens look guilty as hell of corruption
  • IG Horowitz still hasn't dropped his FISA report and McCabe hasn't been indicted, which could happen any time


And this is how they're trying to impeach Trump? They've built up a better case for impeaching Joe Biden.
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Oct 8 2019 02:41pm
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I don't think there's any world in which this plays out well and we learn that this whistleblower worked directly for Biden
We're at the confluence of;
  • There was no quid pro quo
  • What Trump did wasn't illegal
  • The whistleblower worked for Biden (? or who)
  • The whistleblower broke the law by going directly to Schiff and lied to the IG
  • Schiff broke the rules of the house committee by concealing it
  • Biden already admitted to doing a quid pro quo
  • The Bidens look guilty as hell of corruption
  • IG Horowitz still hasn't dropped his FISA report and McCabe hasn't been indicted, which could happen any time


And this is how they're trying to impeach Trump? They've built up a better case for impeaching Joe Biden.


I feel like this should be more important than impeaching trump and I think alot of americans feel the same way and deserve the truth. Im slowly seeing news networks in the demonrats pockets slowly being forced to acknowledge the facts and do some real journalism for once.
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Oct 8 2019 02:52pm
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I feel like this should be more important than impeaching trump and I think alot of americans feel the same way and deserve the truth. Im slowly seeing news networks in the demonrats pockets slowly being forced to acknowledge the facts and do some real journalism for once.


Al jazeera tried to come to the United States and they do real journalism. Americans didn't want it. They want ideological news shows like Fox and MSNBC. CNN was falling behind those two and they went ideological and its great for ratings.

Everyone is mad at CNN but there is only one relevant question about them to be asked: are their time slots for commercials more valuable than they were last year or the year before that? Any other question is completely losing sight of the purpose of a CNN or a Fox.

Biden is fucked. He got 3% at best in every primary before being VP. Dems won't get excited about him. Honestly there is nobody to get excited about.

Other metric: Trump is accumulating a massive wave chest composed of donations of small dollar amounts, and for every individual who sends Trump that hot $20 there are a few dozen or more other supporters.

Also you have to really really fuck up to not get reelected to POTUS once you're in. You literally have to have your party split by a spoiler (I can see a libertarian getting a decent amount of votes this election) or have an embassy taken hostage to not get reelected.

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