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Oct 7 2019 10:32am
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 7 2019 12:21pm)
Schiff was plainly aware of the details of the complaint before it broke, he was tweeting about it. It seems like a quibble over the distinction between "The whistleblower told Schiff's office everything that would be the basis for his complaint" and "The whistleblower didn't provide Schiff's office with the text of his complaint that he later wrote and provided to the IG". That's irrelevant. The statute is there to stop people from leaking the details to partisans in congress in the first place, not to strictly enforce some insane bureaucratic paper trail. The only facts that matter are that Schiff was given the information about the Trump/Ukraine call and alleged quid pro quo before that was given to the IG, and that Schiff didn't disclose it to the rest of the committee.

From where I'm standing, it seems likely that this 'whistleblower' was actually a long-term leaker who had been spying on Trump for Schiff's office for some time now and probably leaked previous transcripts, and they just dreamed up the bright idea of formalizing a complaint into a whistleblower report and using that for impeachment.


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Oct 7 2019 01:00pm
Why don't we for a minute let go of the arbitrary political party devotion.

Think about the following scenarios and be honest, is the situation good or bad. I am speaking of certain scenarios that does not imply a particular president or party. Just use common sense and answer good or bad for the Country.


The FBI investigate and determine overwhelmingly that Russia interfered in the 2016 election. And the Leader completely ignores that sentiment. Good or bad?

A President uses campaign money to pay off people so they don't bring up dirt about him during an election. Knowing that this is illegal. Is taht Good or Bad?

The Campaign money the president used to pay off people was funnelled through a lawyer, now the lawyer is doing prison time. But the President gets no penalty, and egregiously insults and belittles the lawyer that is doing jail time for the President. Good or Bad?

A Video emerges showing the President spreading Bigotry, and when confronted about it The president insults and belittles people who talk about it to him. Good or Bad

A President believes it is appropriate to tell 4 non caucasian, politicans to 'go back to their own Country'. All 4 of those Politicians actually being american citizens. Good or bad?

A President that reverts to name calling and insults for his peers regularly. Good or Bad?

A president that actively and admittedly tries to defy the constitution daily. Good or Bad?

A President that would rather sue the government than give out tax returns. In history every single president has given out tax returns.

There are serious proven allegations that Fraud was committed in the Presidents past for taxes. The PResident has bragged that he dodges taxes The President refuses to give up his tax returns to the public. Good or bad?




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Nice try. Going to Schiff first was/is illegal, and no amount of spin will change that.
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Oct 7 2019 01:10pm
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Nice try. Going to Schiff first was/is illegal, and no amount of spin will change that.


Lets assume it was ilegal,

What about what the complaint was about?

How the president doesnt give a fuck about antional policy and willingly will use his power to fuck over political rivals which is beyond illegal?

What about that part? Does that facet of illegality matter to you??????

asking for a friend.'

inb4 you don't respond like a typical Trump cuck




I saw this insane propaganda on a pro fgt site. No wonder,

“So do not be a bystander to history,” Miller said. “This is happening now. The chance for extraordinary victory is here and now, but we have to win this battle, and we have to be successful in implementing these policies and beating back the Adam Schiffs of the world and the deep state and the fake news media and the corrupt news media.”

like. Lmfao.

The hilarious part is how the fakeness of the news is the pro Trump bs that is being displayed. Fucking Irony.

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Nunes and Schiff are two sides of the same coin. For every time you can point out Nunes being a partisan hack, you can point out just as egregious conduct by Schiff. The fact that he's the guy the leaker went to just shows where his partisan motivations lie. And the fact is, Schiff was required by the committee rules to disclose this information to the other members, and didn't, and the leaker was not allowed to go to Schiff in the first place.
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Oct 7 2019 01:41pm
I believe this is a moment where every member of the United States Congress should take very seriously their oath to protect the Constitution of the United States. This is about defending our democracy and our system of justice because the framers imagined a moment like this, Katy, where there would be an abuse of power by one branch of government, and purposely they designed a democracy understanding it for it to be real and true and checks and balances on any excessive display of power, which means, in this case, we’re the executive branch the president has abused his power. Congress, the other, co-equal independent branch of government, must provide the check and the balance on that abuse. And that means beginning an inquiry to expose exactly what happened so there could be accountability and consequence. There is a matter of defending the very democracy that makes us and allows us to walk into rooms around the globe and have respect because perfect we may be, we actually understand the importance of not having authoritarian regimes.
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Oct 7 2019 01:43pm
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Nunes and Schiff are two sides of the same coin. For every time you can point out Nunes being a partisan hack, you can point out just as egregious conduct by Schiff. The fact that he's the guy the leaker went to just shows where his partisan motivations lie. And the fact is, Schiff was required by the committee rules to disclose this information to the other members, and didn't, and the leaker was not allowed to go to Schiff in the first place.


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