double strawman idiot.

1. im advocating we give food freely where food scarcity is a thing. AND that we invest to boost the industrial groundswell, largely where cartels and sectarian violence exist (south america and africa). and in some cases we do both, some have violence, some have hunger, some have both.

2. im not saying localized scarcity doesnt exist, im saying global scarcity doesnt exist.

maybe if you thought for 2 seconds you'd realize giving food and the nonexistence of localized scarcity are contradictory, then you could have saved yourself a rather stupid post that makes you look dumb.



simply wrong imo. selfish people are the ones that get duped by the "here have a crumb and thank me for it" rhetoric.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 11 2020 12:34pm

Maybe he's also selfish. I don't know, personalities are giant webs of traits all working together.

people who grow up in abject poverty are almost always selfish in my experience, its a fear that a blink of an eye will have you back in dire straights. it took me years to get rid of it, and i never got too bad only because of having great mentors despite being dirt poor.

isnt it sad that it would take the government to “allow” this to happen? as an individual and for smaller companies its hard to donate produce to food shelters etc. because if one person gets sick you are liable

the accounting only works out that way because corporate lobbies have fudged with the math to make tax write offs for lost product so juicy. the laws were written to apply for situations like mass spoilage, instead companies used them as a loophole to avoid having to reclaim and fix labels or re-tape a box shut. essentially avoiding hiring humans and maintaining a fake brand quality face of the company. all on our dime.

yeah the accounting behind it is based on claiming losses on damaged goods, which is somewhat sound if you think about say a widget, but not a flimsy box top on produce like you said.

alas here we are. it always frustrates me to no end that waste is encouraged. in general Americans overconsume already then throw it incentivized spoilage and viola, our current predicament.

You're grossly misrepresenting what i'v said. Science is based on systemic observation, measurement and testing. Something done outside of a lab (and by that it just means without full control for all or near all variables) means you're opening it up to outside/uncontrollable variables which there's always plenty of to impact the measurement portion.

I do think Republicans have an interest in fixing the system. Again saying something is not sustainable doesn't mean lets keep the status quo. Saying one side of the equation is deeply negative and will collapse the system is what someone that's mature and calculated does to prevent the disaster of implosion. I'm not even against single payer i was just responding to your shitty mischaracterization of someone that acknowledges a basic math reality. Continuing to make the one side more negative doesn't somehow result in balancing, it results in implosion.





You continue to move the goal posts. My original post you responded to was talking about our current economic conditions and how more social spending would increase those woes. You come in being a cunt, making the focus of what i posted entirely about single payer. Then you proceed to talk about how i don't care about people and want to sacrifice them for some selfish economic ends.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Aug 11 2020 01:16pm

U said healthcare, the entire debate in the USA is single payer vs our current system. its not my fault you cant get to step 1 when you say things. i chose a single topic of how you're a bad person because it's the most poignant, if i had to think of a political belief that you hold that makes you a caring good person i'd be left stumped. the closest you come is "well capitalism is better than communism and i think we're headed towards communism so thats how i care for people". just a vague meta attention to others that's actually driven by your own fear from childhood. then you spent 10 posts shooting blanks at me trying to establish my first world privilege moving the goalposts all over the place. i had no issue with this because 9 times out of 10 in pard when some idiot mentions goalposts what they're really saying is they had a conversation that had more than one topic but dont have an argument so they hackily drop the goalposts bullshit. ive been consistent in my arguments, you just took single statements to be my entire plan of how to fix a problem as complex and vast as world hunger. how u can be so braindead as to assume i meant that throwing food at the 3rd world alone will create world peace, or that i could simultaneously not think local scarcity is a thing and also that they need food is beyond me. likely me being a cunt put u on your backfoot so fast you havent been thinking very much.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 11 2020 01:27pm

My wife has a touch of that, she is having a hard time adjusting to having thousands of dollars left over at the end of each month.

It's good though, because if I had my way without pushback I'd be filling my basement with servers

What you responded to:



Notice how nowhere am i just focusing on healthcare but speaking in economic trend generalities. Even my allusion to Venezuela light had more to do wealth/currency erosion than healthcare. Put me on my back foot about what? You're the one getting angry about having a retarded opinion on scarcity. Only thing you've been consistent in this discussion is ping-ponging this discussion into tangents that had nothing to do with what i said angrily because i bruised your ego.