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Dec 24 2017 11:54am
I really don't see the problem with it. You like dogs as a pet, sure, but I don't see how this is affected by others liking dogs for dinner. Live and let live.
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Dec 24 2017 12:09pm
Quote (Leevee @ Dec 24 2017 11:54am)
I really don't see the problem with it. You like dogs as a pet, sure, but I don't see how this is affected by others liking dogs for dinner. Live and let live.


I socialize with other fleshy human earthdwellers. Should I be unbothered by those who would rather serve man?
The anthropological principal is a physically arbitrary distinction of biological and cultural roots that makes us distinguish humans from animals. And the co-evolution and domestication of dogs puts them in a similar special position next to humans. Even a faithful horse can just be meat, but a dog? A man's dog stands by him in prosperity and in poverty, in health and in sickness. He will sleep on the cold ground, where the wintry winds blow and the snow drives fiercely, if only he may be near his master's side. He will kiss the hand that has no food to offer, he will lick the wounds and sores that come in encounters with the roughness of the world. He guards the sleep of his pauper master as if he were a prince. When all other friends desert, he remains. When riches take wings and reputation falls to pieces, he is as constant in his love as the sun in its journey through the heavens. If fortune drives the master forth an outcast in the world, friendless and homeless, the faithful dog asks no higher privilege than that of accompanying him to guard against danger, to fight against his enemies, and when the last scene of all comes, and death takes the master in its embrace and his body is laid away in the cold ground, no matter if all other friends pursue their way, there by his graveside will the noble dog be found, his head between his paws, his eyes sad but open in alert watchfulness, faithful and true even to death.
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Dec 24 2017 12:15pm
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I socialize with other fleshy human earthdwellers. Should I be unbothered by those who would rather serve man?
The anthropological principal is a physically arbitrary distinction of biological and cultural roots that makes us distinguish humans from animals. And the co-evolution and domestication of dogs puts them in a similar special position next to humans. Even a faithful horse can just be meat, but a dog? A man's dog stands by him in prosperity and in poverty, in health and in sickness. He will sleep on the cold ground, where the wintry winds blow and the snow drives fiercely, if only he may be near his master's side. He will kiss the hand that has no food to offer, he will lick the wounds and sores that come in encounters with the roughness of the world. He guards the sleep of his pauper master as if he were a prince. When all other friends desert, he remains. When riches take wings and reputation falls to pieces, he is as constant in his love as the sun in its journey through the heavens. If fortune drives the master forth an outcast in the world, friendless and homeless, the faithful dog asks no higher privilege than that of accompanying him to guard against danger, to fight against his enemies, and when the last scene of all comes, and death takes the master in its embrace and his body is laid away in the cold ground, no matter if all other friends pursue their way, there by his graveside will the noble dog be found, his head between his paws, his eyes sad but open in alert watchfulness, faithful and true even to death.


And this is why dogs are better than humans.
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Dec 24 2017 12:20pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 24 2017 08:09pm)
I socialize with other fleshy human earthdwellers. Should I be unbothered by those who would rather serve man?
The anthropological principal is a physically arbitrary distinction of biological and cultural roots that makes us distinguish humans from animals. And the co-evolution and domestication of dogs puts them in a similar special position next to humans. Even a faithful horse can just be meat, but a dog? A man's dog stands by him in prosperity and in poverty, in health and in sickness. He will sleep on the cold ground, where the wintry winds blow and the snow drives fiercely, if only he may be near his master's side. He will kiss the hand that has no food to offer, he will lick the wounds and sores that come in encounters with the roughness of the world. He guards the sleep of his pauper master as if he were a prince. When all other friends desert, he remains. When riches take wings and reputation falls to pieces, he is as constant in his love as the sun in its journey through the heavens. If fortune drives the master forth an outcast in the world, friendless and homeless, the faithful dog asks no higher privilege than that of accompanying him to guard against danger, to fight against his enemies, and when the last scene of all comes, and death takes the master in its embrace and his body is laid away in the cold ground, no matter if all other friends pursue their way, there by his graveside will the noble dog be found, his head between his paws, his eyes sad but open in alert watchfulness, faithful and true even to death.


You say all this, but I wonder how you'd feel if you knew how pigs can be great pets just like dogs.

Anyway, the reason why we do not breed and eat humans is because we are humans ourselves. It's not cultural. We have a biological imperative to care for each other within our species; we have no reason to treat any other animal that way.

Your whole post revolves around how you appreciate dogs as pets, but it does nothing to explain why everybody should feel that way.
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Dec 24 2017 12:30pm
Quote (Leevee @ Dec 24 2017 12:20pm)
You say all this, but I wonder how you'd feel if you knew how pigs can be great pets just like dogs.


Except, they can't. Pigs have not shared the same biological domestication that dogs have. You can have a pet pig, a pet iguana, pet cockatoo, pet gerbil, pet chimpanzee, pet rock. They don't share the same bond with humans that dogs do, because they didn't spend tens of thousands of years adapting their instinctual dispositions and psychology based on cohabitation with humans and selective breeding. All we did with pigs is find a breed that didn't gore us to death when used as livestock. Contrast the pet monkey, where it might live with you a decade and then decide to eat your face one day. The measure of whether its going to try to kill you or not doesn't really compare to the measure of whether the species is biologically hardwired to faithfully obey and defend you from birth to death.
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Dec 24 2017 01:37pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 20 Dec 2017 22:32)
"They have no heart"

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she was talking about chineses btw
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Dec 24 2017 03:25pm
Quote (dos350 @ Dec 24 2017 01:16am)
why not? isnt chicken a domestic brah


Chicken don't come up to you and Is your friend like a dog
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Dec 24 2017 03:42pm
Quote (tbiddystrong @ Dec 24 2017 01:25pm)
Chicken don't come up to you and Is your friend like a dog


to vegans they do
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Dec 24 2017 04:27pm
No it's not socially acceptable in Western culture, and when I was in the far East was becoming increasingly frowned upon. You don't see them offering dog meat on the street in places like Korea anymore.

But does eating dog meat deserve to be in the category of 'not socially acceptable' when eating other animal meat still is? It's not logically consistent to chastise people for eating dog meat and then tucking into your big mac.

That's why I eat all meats with the same frequency

This post was edited by dro94 on Dec 24 2017 04:27pm
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Dec 24 2017 04:29pm
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No it's not socially acceptable in Western culture, and when I was in the far East was becoming increasingly frowned upon. You don't see them offering dog meat on the street in places like Korea anymore.

But does eating dog meat deserve to be in the category of 'not socially acceptable' when eating other animal meat still is? It's not logically consistent to chastise people for eating dog meat and then tucking into your big mac.

That's why I eat all meats with the same frequency


one of those soy boys are we
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