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Breaaaking :lol: all these sad little demoncrat whistleblowers !!! :evil:
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Focusing on the whistle blower is a distraction. His complaint has been largely corroborated(by the Trump administration and Guiliani's own admissions). So whether you want to believe he's a Soros plant or whatever, what matters is the wrongdoing revealed.
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2 days ago i heard some political "expert" explaining that one of the 3 main reasons democrats decided to start the impeachment process was that THIS offense would be much more understandable -for average american- than the Mueller investigation.
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Focusing on the whistle blower is a distraction. His complaint has been largely corroborated(by the Trump administration and Guiliani's own admissions). So whether you want to believe he's a Soros plant or whatever, what matters is the wrongdoing revealed.


Separate issues.

It's obviously terrible for low ranking government employees to coordinate with their political allies against their boss. We'll learn more about why the whistleblower form was modified to allow tertiary source information, but the implication is the same. You can't have a functioning bureaucracy with this happening, and it's obviously not the bureaucracy's job / authority / right to decide what a lawfully elected president can or can't do.

The Ukrainian saga comes down to whether or not there is quid pro quo. It's not some unspeakable crime to want your opponent investigated for committing a crime, as the Democratic party agreed when it suited them.
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Separate issues.

It's obviously terrible for low ranking government employees to coordinate with their political allies against their boss. We'll learn more about why the whistleblower form was modified to allow tertiary source information, but the implication is the same. You can't have a functioning bureaucracy with this happening, and it's obviously not the bureaucracy's job / authority / right to decide what a lawfully elected president can or can't do.

The Ukrainian saga comes down to whether or not there is quid pro quo. It's not some unspeakable crime to want your opponent investigated for committing a crime, as the Democratic party agreed when it suited them.


1. Officials go to the intel committees for guidance concerning whistle blowing somewhat frequently. Schiff's aide heard the outline of the complaint, and recommended he go to the ICIG. There's nothing improper about that. And a whistle blower reporting an abuse of power by the president and his employees is not evidence of political bias.
2. The whistle blower used the old form, and the law makes clear you don't need first hand information to make a complaint. The Federalist got the article wrong. If you're going to read propaganda, at least supplement it with fact-based reporting.
3. It's the duty of officials to report wrongdoing and corrupt behavior. They're supposed to do it through the whistle blower process. Then the ICIG determines whether it's credible. Anyone interested in good government should support that process.
4. Maybe the explicit quid pro quo is the line for you, but Democrats and many Americans feel differently. And if there was an explicit, obvious quid pro quo you would just find a way to justify that.
5. I don't know what the last sentence is referring to.

Why am I the only one on PaRD who combats the endless misinformation. Does no one else follow the news closely?

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1. Officials go to the intel committees for guidance concerning whistle blowing somewhat frequently. Schiff's aide heard the outline of the complaint, and recommended he go to the ICIG. There's nothing improper about that. And a whistle blower reporting an abuse of power by the president and his employees is not evidence of political bias.
2. The whistle blower used the old form, and the law makes clear you don't need first hand information to make a complaint. The Federalist got the article wrong. If you're going to read propaganda, at least supplement it with fact-based reporting.
3. It's the duty of officials to report wrongdoing and corrupt behavior. They're supposed to do it through the whistle blower process. Then the ICIG determines whether it's credible. Anyone interested in good government should support that process.
4. Maybe the explicitly quid pro quo is the line for you, but Democrats and many Americans feel differently. And if there was an explicit, obvious quid pro quo you would just find a way to justify that.
5. I don't know what the last sentence is referring to.

Why am I the only one on PaRD who combats the endless misinformation. Does no one else follow the news closely?


Since when did hearsay constitute as whistleblowing? "Gee I think I might've heard something that might be relevant to what this guy's political ambition pertains to." If that was the case, EVERY-FUCKING-BODY would be doing it. That's what's so criminal about what the Democrats are doing. There is no "old form". This just shows how ignorant you are. God I fucking love it.

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3. It's the duty of officials to report wrongdoing and corrupt behavior.


Again, GOD I FUCKING LOVE IT. It's so obvious when people THINK they know shit when they really don't know SHIT. You don't just spill information to the whole wide world.

And what quid pro? Asking an official to investigate illegal wrongdoing?

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If this is the standard Democrats want to establish, then do not complain when the next Democrat president achieves POTUS. You stupid asses set this precedent. When it comes back to bites you in the asses, remember who spurred it.

Go back to watching Stephen Colbert and feeling informed lol.

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Oct 6 2019 05:59pm
IceMage, have you ever taken an Oath? Or are you just really good at parroting shit you read from social media?

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