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Oct 5 2019 05:32pm
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Only in your delusional mind is that what happened.


I should have been clear, I'm saying that if the quid pro quo was explicit and irrefutable, how would Republicans react.
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Oct 5 2019 06:23pm
So it has now dissolved to the point where if trump denies it then it must not be true?

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Trump is a pathological liar who engages in elaborate conspiracies to cover up his crimes, or Trump is a brazen lawbreaker who does it out in the open and too stupid to know when to keep his mouth shut. Which is it?



What they were supposed to think was nothing at all, because they were unaware that aid was being withheld for a month after the call and after that had no clue what was going on.
Leverage isn't useful if the other person doesn't even know you're holding it, again, a massive plot hole in your conspiracy theory.



Theres a difference between those who will show up at the ballot box and who will get represented online. In 2016, the Bernie bros were a pivotal factor in denying the queen her throne. But if you had looked online at the far-left hubs, everyone was gladly eating Hillary's shit sandwich and seeing the rainbows pour out of her every orifice. I don't think that will repeat in 2020. There will be far less to stay at home or defect, as the TDS is so strong they will gladly eat their shit sandwichs this time around or they're already Trump supporters. The partisanship is far too strong, in 9 months I'm going to be reading about how Biden was the chosen messiah and watch any discussion of his corruption or school busing or child touching get absolutely nuked by anti-Trump fanatics who don't even "agree" with him, just adamantly support him



Uh, what "far left hubs" supported Third Way Hillary?
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The New York Times noted that the anti-Trump complainant only notified the committee’s Democrats of his allegations.


Clear example of bias. I mean, there's no legitimate reason why the whistle blower wouldn't go to Devin Nunes to report wrongdoing by Trump. Is there?








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Clear example of bias. I mean, there's no legitimate reason why the whistle blower wouldn't go to Devin Nunes to report wrongdoing by Trump. Is there?





http://i.imgur.com/PHXVQfe.gif


https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW-105publ272/html/PLAW-105publ272.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_Community_Whistleblower_Protection_Act

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/intel/R45431.pdf

>(ii) The employee may contact the intelligence committees directly as described in clause (i) only if the employee-

>(I) before making such a contact, furnishes to the Director, through the Inspector General, a statement of the employee's complaint or information and notice of the employee's intent to contact the intelligence committees directly; and

>(II) obtains and follows from the Director, through the Inspector General, direction on how to contact the intelligence committees in accordance with appropriate security practices.

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https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW-105publ272/html/PLAW-105publ272.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_Community_Whistleblower_Protection_Act

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/intel/R45431.pdf

>(ii) The employee may contact the intelligence committees directly as described in clause (i) only if the employee-

>(I) before making such a contact, furnishes to the Director, through the Inspector General, a statement of the employee's complaint or information and notice of the employee's intent to contact the intelligence committees directly; and

>(II) obtains and follows from the Director, through the Inspector General, direction on how to contact the intelligence committees in accordance with appropriate security practices.


I believe the whistle blower reported his complaint to CIA counsel first, and then sought guidance from an intel committee aid, and was directed to report the complaint to the ICIG.

But of course the federalist is going to attack the whistle blower for minor process issues. Cause we all know they're sticklers for rule following when it comes to the Trump administration.
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I believe the whistle blower reported his complaint to CIA counsel first, and then sought guidance from an intel committee aid, and was directed to report the complaint to the ICIG.

But of course the federalist is going to attack the whistle blower for minor process issues. Cause we all know they're sticklers for rule following when it comes to the Trump administration.


It still amounts to Adam Schiff being made aware of the details of the Trump/Ukraine accusation before the CIA guy went to the IG, and Schiff failing to disclose outside sourced information to the republicans on the committee. Both pretty clear violations of the procedures/rules.

Not so very minor when filing a whistleblower form was Schiff's office's idea in the first place. Those rules were put in place to stop politically motivated leaking just like this

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