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Oct 3 2019 02:17pm
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it's unbelievable that you apparently don't even feel stupid or at least ashamed for making such a flawed analogies, trying to excuse your cult leader's crooked behaviour, acting like he was just personally trying get something investigated by making a reasonable request without any implications.

the truth couldn't be further from it. in reality he actively held back military aid to ukraine to strongarm them into doing him a personal favour - like he did before (the javelin missiles that were promised and held back until ukraine did him a personal favour), to stop their investigations into manafort.


Proof? Oh there is none? No proof of quid pro? Oh no Germany conquered again.
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Oct 3 2019 02:18pm
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All feelings, no facts. Per usual


Yeah sorry bud but everything I mentioned has real repercussions. Nothing to do with feels.

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Oct 3 2019 02:21pm
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that twitter link looks like it belongs to a swamp creature person who definitely slaps and kicks infants and puppies and kittens for “stress relief” - no wonder you run to agree with him :wacko:

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Proof? Oh there is none? No proof of quid pro? Oh no Germany conquered again.

somehow, according to the descendant of goebbels, president drumpf is a pawn of both ukraine and russia at the same time (enemies of each other and national-socialist germany)

fender aka heinrich is attempting to live out a deluded fantasy in which the fourth reich finally gets to rule

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Oct 3 2019 02:27pm
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Proof? Oh there is none? No proof of quid pro? Oh no Germany conquered again.


a cultist not being able to acknowledge obvious implications (probably even stronger than the official white house statements, which are already pretty damning - btw, the president could release those original tapes at any time if he wanted to prove there were no conditions tied to the military aid he suspended), does not mean they are not there. conquer that.

just because the trump cult collectively puts their fingers in their ears and goes 'lalala' doesn't mean that halfway intelligent and critically thinking people don't recognise blatant quid pro quo.

they can (pretend to) be the most gullible and dense people in the world, but that doesn't mean everyone else has to play by their special needs rules...

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Oct 3 2019 02:31pm
Guys, I just don’t want to have to deal with two orange idiots debating next year. Can we please just toss them both in prison already?
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Oct 3 2019 02:36pm
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Yeah sorry bud but everything I mentioned has real repercussions. Nothing to do with feels.

I’m sure you feel that way Brian.
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Oct 3 2019 02:38pm
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that twitter link looks like it belongs to a swamp creature person who definitely slaps and kicks infants and puppies and kittens for “stress relief” - no wonder you run to agree with him :wacko:


somehow, according to the descendant of goebbels, president drumpf is a pawn of both ukraine and russia at the same time (enemies of each other and national-socialist germany)

fender aka heinrich is attempting to live out a deluded fantasy in which the fourth reich finally gets to rule


Ukraine and Russia enemies lmao.

Half of Ukraine is ethnically Russian due to Stalin.

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Oct 3 2019 02:47pm
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a cultist not being able to acknowledge obvious implications (probably even stronger than the official white house statements, which are already pretty damning - btw, the president could release those original tapes at any time if he wanted to prove there were no conditions tied to the military aid he suspended), does not mean they are not there. conquer that.

just because the trump cult collectively puts their fingers in their ears and goes 'lalala' doesn't mean that halfway intelligent and critically thinking people don't recognise blatant quid pro quo.

they can (pretend to) be the most gullible and dense people in the world, but that doesn't mean everyone else has to play by their special needs rules...


Cultist? I'm not a spawn of Germany. Did your ancestors cover their ears?
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Oct 3 2019 02:50pm
Quote (fender @ Oct 3 2019 04:27pm)
a cultist not being able to acknowledge obvious implications (probably even stronger than the official white house statements, which are already pretty damning - btw, the president could release those original tapes at any time if he wanted to prove there were no conditions tied to the military aid he suspended), does not mean they are not there. conquer that.

just because the trump cult collectively puts their fingers in their ears and goes 'lalala' doesn't mean that halfway intelligent and critically thinking people don't recognise blatant quid pro quo.

they can (pretend to) be the most gullible and dense people in the world, but that doesn't mean everyone else has to play by their special needs rules...


I don't think anyone expects the President to release tapes of diplomatic communication because his opponents have moved from one conspiracy theory to the next. If anything could make diplomacy more ineffectual than it is, that would certainly be it.

Asking the Ukrainian president to look into a pretty obvious case of political corruption is a complete nothing.

The Democratic Party has taken the stance that when they reach out to foreign governments for dirt, it's well in line, but when their opposition does it, it's an abuse of power. Perhaps Biden shouldn't have so many skeletons in his closet.
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