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Quote (cambovenzi @ Oct 5 2019 06:22pm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXOFNUuUJmU


Let me translate terms here.

Deep state = rule of law.

Coup = legal/constitutional accountability for the cult leader.
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Oct 5 2019 04:40pm
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Let me translate terms here.

Deep state = rule of law.

Coup = legal/constitutional accountability for the cult leader.


You are equating the CIA and FBI and other unelected bureaucrats with the rule of law and dismissing any reason and evidence without even considering it.

Imagining blindly worshipping the state that much

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Oct 5 2019 04:49pm
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You are equating the CIA and FBI and other unelected bureaucrats with the rule of law and dismissing any reason and evidence without even considering it.

Imagining blindly worshipping the state that much


Imagine being so blinded by hatred of government that even when a CIA official follows the law and blows the whistle on corrupt behavior by the most powerful man in America, it's turned on it's head as a deep state plot to overthrow the guy who abused his office. The Trump era really has revealed the intellectual shallowness and tribal nature of right-wing libertarianism.
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Oct 5 2019 04:50pm
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Imagine being so blinded by hatred of government that even when a CIA official follows the law and blows the whistle on corrupt behavior by the most powerful man in America, it's turned on it's head as a deep state plot to overthrow the guy who abused his office. The Trump era really has revealed the intellectual shallowness and tribal nature of right-wing libertarianism.


Oh come on, I've been calling them out for it for like 10 years now.
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Oct 5 2019 05:01pm
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 5 2019 06:49pm)
Imagine being so blinded by hatred of government that even when a CIA official follows the law and blows the whistle on corrupt behavior by the most powerful man in America, it's turned on it's head as a deep state plot to overthrow the guy who abused his office. The Trump era really has revealed the intellectual shallowness and tribal nature of right-wing libertarianism.


A CIA lackey reporting hearsay that doesn't contain the quid pro quo that what was reported isn't blowing the whistle on corrupt behavior, nor is it the core of what the video you didn't watch before dismissing was discussing and showing.
Its but one part of years-long attempts to undermine and remove the president, with public statements by ranking officials.


An establishment authoritarian dickrider who dismisses opposing arguments and evidence without even looking at it calling libertarians intellectually shallow is ridiculous.
There is no world where the deep state = the rule of law. just a pathetic attempt to blindly defend the state.
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Oct 5 2019 05:19pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Oct 5 2019 07:01pm)
A CIA lackey reporting hearsay that doesn't contain the quid pro quo that what was reported isn't blowing the whistle on corrupt behavior, nor is it the core of what the video you didn't watch before dismissing was discussing and showing.
Its but one part of years-long attempts to undermine and remove the president, with public statements by ranking officials.


An establishment authoritarian dickrider who dismisses opposing arguments and evidence without even looking at it calling libertarians intellectually shallow is ridiculous.
There is no world where the deep state = the rule of law. just a pathetic attempt to blindly defend the state.


The whistle blower complaint has been largely proven to be accurate. You're free to join the Trump cult in playing dumb and pretending there's not strong evidence of a quid pro quo.

I'm not going to watch an hour and a half video of some dopey Trump sympathetic libertarian repeating the same dopey talking points I can see on Fox News. I watched a small portion. Of course if a whistle blower under Obama reported him doing the same sort of thing, you'd view it entirely differently, but under Trump it's impossible for right-wingers to stay consistent.

There is no deep state. That's mostly a term people use when something in the justice system happens that inconveniences the dear leader.
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Oct 5 2019 05:21pm
Obama does something bad
Cam: LIBERALS HATE FREEDOM AJDJFHSJMS!!!! REEE

Trump does something bad
Cam: Says nothing / gives token "I disagree" / Its a conspiracy!
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Oct 5 2019 05:31pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 5 2019 07:21pm)
Obama does something bad
Cam: LIBERALS HATE FREEDOM AJDJFHSJMS!!!! REEE

Trump does something bad
Cam: Says nothing / gives token "I disagree" / Its a conspiracy!


I just wonder what Trump would have to do, not policy wise, but an abuse of office, that wouldn't get defended by the cult here.
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I just wonder what Trump would have to do, not policy wise, but an abuse of office, that wouldn't get defended by the cult here.



Something that Obama did like using the CIA to launder weapons
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