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Mar 4 2020 05:11am
Quote (thundercock @ Mar 4 2020 01:45am)
This is 100% on young people. They keep failing this country. They deserve crippling debt. They deserve to have abortion taken away. They deserve shitty health insurance. They deserve low wages. All because they are too fucking lazy to vote.


My daughter, who was 17 at the time, came to caucuses with me last Tuesday, which is a step above and beyond voting.
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Mar 4 2020 05:33am
Quote (balrog66 @ 4 Mar 2020 10:47)
Oh come on now. There's 100% laziness and apathy involved, and it's in no way entirely someone else's fault.


If someone is apathetic they haven't been given a reason to care.

If they don't care it's not laziness that drives their inaction. Why act when you don't care?
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Mar 4 2020 07:57am

Quote (balrog66 @ 4 Mar 2020 05:47)
Oh come on now. There's 100% laziness and apathy involved, and it's in no way entirely someone else's fault.

easier to spam the internet pretending to be woke and calling others bigots than actually rolling out of bed and going to a polling station or even perhaps voting early or absentee

voting is ridiculous easy in America you just have to want to go and do it

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Mar 4 2020 10:02am
Quote (MxVivianWulf @ 4 Mar 2020 11:16)
I don't think laziness is the issue.

If they're not engaged and passionate about politics then that's on the politicians, educators and media... and it's probably semi-deliberate tbh.


If they're not engaged and passionate about politics, they accept the political status quo, plain and simple. If they want certain things from their politicians, like universal healthcare or action on student loans and climate change, they have to fight for it like everyone else. Posting on twitter and reddit doesnt cut it.
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Mar 4 2020 10:17am
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/bernie-sanders-obama-advert-campaign-video-watch-endorsement-democratic-primary-a9375111.html

Bernie has come up with a dramatic new campaign strategy to prop him up after Tuesday's shellacking
He's now proudly advertising his endorsement by Barack Obama!
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Mar 4 2020 11:30am
Quote (Goomshill @ 4 Mar 2020 17:17)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/bernie-sanders-obama-advert-campaign-video-watch-endorsement-democratic-primary-a9375111.html

Bernie has come up with a dramatic new campaign strategy to prop him up after Tuesday's shellacking
He's now proudly advertising his endorsement by Barack Obama!


Lol, he's basically begging Obama to finally come out and endorse Biden - which would be the final nail in the coffin for Bernie's campaign.
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Mar 4 2020 11:33am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 4 2020 11:30am)
Lol, he's basically begging Obama to finally come out and endorse Biden - which would be the final nail in the coffin for Bernie's campaign.


The campaign is dead. This will go to the convention, and the DNC isn't even hiding the fact that the deck is stacked against Bernie.

Unless Biden somehow becomes unable to run, he's the nominee.

Trump v. Biden 2020
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Mar 4 2020 11:35am
Quote (djman72 @ 4 Mar 2020 18:33)
The campaign is dead. This will go to the convention, and the DNC isn't even hiding the fact that the deck is stacked against Bernie.

Unless Biden somehow becomes unable to run, he's the nominee.

Trump v. Biden 2020


Yes, but it will make a big difference for the party unity whether Biden or Bernie enters the convention with the lead.
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Mar 4 2020 11:41am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 4 2020 11:35am)
Yes, but it will make a big difference for the party unity whether Biden or Bernie enters the convention with the lead.


They'll end up somewhat even I imagine.

There really isn't party unity, and there can't be. Bernie Sander's supporters will be up in arms if he's not the nominee and be against to vote for Biden. They won't vote for Trump, they'll just stay home and not vote which is a BIG problem for (D).

It's very clear that the democratic wagons are circling around Biden. Both these candidates are polarizing to the opposite side. It's near impossible to NOT have some attrition, regardless of who the nominee is. Biden as nominee won't be progressive enough for Sanders party, not to mention the "Bernie was cheated" narrative that'll come. Sanders as nominee will undoubtedly turn off a ton of "moderate" Biden support.

I see this being a problem. A big one.

I could be dead wrong, but that's my take right now.
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Mar 4 2020 11:43am
Quote (djman72 @ 4 Mar 2020 10:41)
They'll end up somewhat even I imagine.

There really isn't party unity, and there can't be. Bernie Sander's supporters will be up in arms if he's not the nominee and be against to vote for Biden. They won't vote for Trump, they'll just stay home and not vote which is a BIG problem for (D).

It's very clear that the democratic wagons are circling around Biden. Both these candidates are polarizing to the opposite side. It's near impossible to NOT have some attrition, regardless of who the nominee is. Biden as nominee won't be progressive enough for Sanders party, not to mention the "Bernie was cheated" narrative that'll come. Sanders as nominee will undoubtedly turn off a ton of "moderate" Biden support.

I see this being a problem. A big one.

I could be dead wrong, but that's my take right now.


I think you're right. It's going to be a big problem for Democrats, and one of the many reasons they will lose the 2020 Presidential election.
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