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Aug 11 2020 10:57am
Quote (SBD @ Aug 11 2020 11:54am)
The home my parents bought was built in the 1770s. 60K purchase. The Acadians were deported and they buried all their belongings. We found all kinds of old real silverware, coins, and other belongings in our yard when we dug up an area for the garage and greenhouse foundations.


duuuuuuuuude, get a metal detector. u will pay it off in silver i bet.

something cheapish like a Garret Ace250, that was my first detector and i paid it off in change i found in 6 months.
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duuuuuuuuude, get a metal detector. u will pay it off in silver i bet.

something cheapish like a Garret Ace250, that was my first detector and i paid it off in change i found in 6 months.


Sold as of 4 years ago now. Someone else's treasure to find now. They downsized and built their retirement home.

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Aug 11 2020 11:09am
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Some people look at the world with a lens beyond immediate needs. Some people understand that sacrifices and the principle of scarcity have always been around and funny money to go on Beverly hills shopping lists doesn't make that issue go away, it actually amplifies it in the long term.

A lot of the stuff i'm talking about in the short run wouldn't benefit me much so not sure why you think it's just about being selfish. I don't make a ton of money nor do i have a ton of wealth. Like i said the trends that are happening now are definitely of putting the current wants on the back of future generations, doesn't really matter if you agree or disagree with that fact.


I love how those "some people understand the long-term effects" are conservatives, a.k.a. the people who'd prefer to keep everything exactly the way it is. When you clearly state that you are against even attempting to solve the issue -- the same issue that has already been resolved with varying degrees of success in all other civilized countries -- you sure know a lot about how those attempts would turn out.

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:rofl: As if i give a fuck that some random fence sitter too scared to be ideological so he changes his views with popular culture thinks i'm a bad person.


I come from scarcity and have experienced it most of my life. So have many others that have lived outside this continent or the western world in general. We want to preserve the recipe of what allowed this system to get here and moving continually left is not it. Most of you don't get it and don't fight for individualism because you've never experienced what a shit world it is to come from some of these leftists not real communism places.


You haven't lived in scarcity. You've lived being oppressed by the same people who you defend at all costs, and are willing to sacrifice the wellbeing of your own daughter for.

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I love how those "some people understand the long-term effects" are conservatives, a.k.a. the people who'd prefer to keep everything exactly the way it is. When you clearly state that you are against even attempting to solve the issue -- the same issue that has already been resolved with varying degrees of success in all other civilized countries -- you sure know a lot about how those attempts would turn out.



You haven't lived in scarcity. You've lived being oppressed by the same people who you defend at all costs, and are willing to sacrifice the wellbeing of your own daughter for.


Being a conservative does not mean keeping everything exactly the way it is. It's toning proposed change to moderate levels. You may have extremists that fit your definition. On average the general population is for progression, that includes conservatives or you would not see the changes you see today. Changes might not happen as fast as if we were all die hard liberals but that is not necessarily a bad thing as not every idea is a good idea.
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i have fairly strong stances on almost all issues, they're just not consistently on one side.

at least you've come to terms with the fact that your parent's battles are dictating your entire world view despite being in an entirely different system, era, and location than they faced. but sure, continue to see boogeymen under every bed. maybe Saint Peter will be sympathetic because u have 2nd generation communism caused PTSD.


I grew up there and travel there consistently, its not hard to see how utterly trash many of those countries remain even 30 years after Communism ended. It's not hard to remember in the 90s living in a country that had less GDP/capita than El-Salvador at the time. Most young people are doing whatever they can to get the fuck out and come to western capitalistic countries.


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I love how those "some people understand the long-term effects" are conservatives, a.k.a. the people who'd prefer to keep everything exactly the way it is. When you clearly state that you are against even attempting to solve the issue -- the same issue that has already been resolved with varying degrees of success in all other civilized countries -- you sure know a lot about how those attempts would turn out.

You haven't lived in scarcity. You've lived being oppressed by the same people who you defend at all costs, and are willing to sacrifice the wellbeing of your own daughter for.


I'm not against 'solving the issue'. A lot of issues need solving and the only answer you guys are proposing is to increase benefits/spending while completely disregarding self-sustainability. Me mentioning a system becoming insolvent by 2035 doesn't mean do nothing, it means what we have now isn't working and we have to do something about it.

I broke out of poverty and probably will settle into a middle class existence, maybe middle upper with my MBA. I want my daughter as an adult to live in a world where she's not saddled with massive taxes forcing her to be a wage slave because we were short sighted thinking our current needs are most important so we leveraged everything 10x cause yolo.
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I love how those "some people understand the long-term effects" are conservatives, a.k.a. the people who'd prefer to keep everything exactly the way it is. When you clearly state that you are against even attempting to solve the issue -- the same issue that has already been resolved with varying degrees of success in all other civilized countries -- you sure know a lot about how those attempts would turn out.



You haven't lived in scarcity. You've lived being oppressed by the same people who you defend at all costs, and are willing to sacrifice the wellbeing of your own daughter for.


idiots use scarcity as a constant because if they accept it no longer exists their entire world view falls apart.

we can debate how to get resources to people, what they should have to do to get those resources, etc. but acting as if we dont have food, shelter, etc to fix lower income scarcity of economics is absurd.

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I grew up there and travel there consistently, its not hard to see how utterly trash many of those countries remain even 30 years after Communism ended. It's not hard to remember in the 90s living in a country that had less GDP/capita than El-Salvador at the time. Most young people are doing whatever they can to get the fuck out and come to western capitalistic countries.




I'm not against 'solving the issue'. A lot of issues need solving and the only answer you guys are proposing is to increase benefits/spending while completely disregarding self-sustainability. Me mentioning a system becoming insolvent by 2035 doesn't mean do nothing, it means what we have now isn't working and we have to do something about it.

I broke out of poverty and probably will settle into a middle class existence, maybe middle upper with my MBA. I want my daughter as an adult to live in a world where she's not saddled with massive taxes forcing her to be a wage slave because we were short sighted thinking our current needs are most important so we leveraged everything 10x cause yolo.


i get it, you're a scared little man who's terrified your family jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire. scared shitless that you escaped communism only to find yourself full bore in it again. you're wrong, but the victimization fits a pattern perfectly. you're basically a battered housewife that escaped an abusive marriage, you're out for dinner and you see a woman and man walk in and she has a black eye. you scream and yell threats at the man until the cops get called only to find out she slipped in the shower.

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I grew up there and travel there consistently, its not hard to see how utterly trash many of those countries remain even 30 years after Communism ended. It's not hard to remember in the 90s living in a country that had less GDP/capita than El-Salvador at the time. Most young people are doing whatever they can to get the fuck out and come to western capitalistic countries.


You mean the countries that have nationalized healthcare, higher taxes, and stronger benefits for workers?
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Aug 11 2020 11:32am
Quote (Leevee @ 11 Aug 2020 13:09)
I love how those "some people understand the long-term effects" are conservatives, a.k.a. the people who'd prefer to keep everything exactly the way it is. When you clearly state that you are against even attempting to solve the issue -- the same issue that has already been resolved with varying degrees of success in all other civilized countries -- you sure know a lot about how those attempts would turn out.



You haven't lived in scarcity. You've lived being oppressed by the same people who you defend at all costs, and are willing to sacrifice the wellbeing of your own daughter for.

oh look the pale pasty privileged nobody going off on rants again. pathetic voyeurism from the descendant of national-socialist sympathizers

Quote (SBD @ 11 Aug 2020 13:26)
Being a conservative does not mean keeping everything exactly the way it is. It's toning proposed change to moderate levels. You may have extremists that fit your definition. On average the general population is for progression, that includes conservatives or you would not see the changes you see today. Changes might not happen as fast as if we were all die hard liberals but that is not necessarily a bad thing as not every idea is a good idea.

some “conservative” did that user wrong a while back and he hasn’t gotten over it (the ‘wronging’ was demanding he pay his rent)

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idiots use scarcity as a constant because if they accept it no longer exists their entire world view falls apart.

we can debate how to get resources to people, what they should have to do to get those resources, etc. but acting as if we dont have food, shelter, etc to fix lower income scarcity of economics is absurd.


>Scarcity doesn't exist because i'm a privileged American and no one is starving or living in poverty where i live therefore the whole world must be like this.
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>Scarcity doesn't exist because i'm a privileged American and no one is starving or living in poverty where i live therefore the whole world must be like this.


The issue is distribution, not amount
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