Quote (Leevee @ Aug 11 2020 12:09pm)
I love how those "some people understand the long-term effects" are conservatives, a.k.a. the people who'd prefer to keep everything exactly the way it is. When you clearly state that you are against even attempting to solve the issue -- the same issue that has already been resolved with varying degrees of success in all other civilized countries -- you sure know a lot about how those attempts would turn out.
You haven't lived in scarcity. You've lived being oppressed by the same people who you defend at all costs, and are willing to sacrifice the wellbeing of your own daughter for.
idiots use scarcity as a constant because if they accept it no longer exists their entire world view falls apart.
we can debate how to get resources to people, what they should have to do to get those resources, etc. but acting as if we dont have food, shelter, etc to fix lower income scarcity of economics is absurd.
Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 11 2020 12:29pm)
I grew up there and travel there consistently, its not hard to see how utterly trash many of those countries remain even 30 years after Communism ended. It's not hard to remember in the 90s living in a country that had less GDP/capita than El-Salvador at the time. Most young people are doing whatever they can to get the fuck out and come to western capitalistic countries.
I'm not against 'solving the issue'. A lot of issues need solving and the only answer you guys are proposing is to increase benefits/spending while completely disregarding self-sustainability. Me mentioning a system becoming insolvent by 2035 doesn't mean do nothing, it means what we have now isn't working and we have to do something about it.
I broke out of poverty and probably will settle into a middle class existence, maybe middle upper with my MBA. I want my daughter as an adult to live in a world where she's not saddled with massive taxes forcing her to be a wage slave because we were short sighted thinking our current needs are most important so we leveraged everything 10x cause yolo.
i get it, you're a scared little man who's terrified your family jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire. scared shitless that you escaped communism only to find yourself full bore in it again. you're wrong, but the victimization fits a pattern perfectly. you're basically a battered housewife that escaped an abusive marriage, you're out for dinner and you see a woman and man walk in and she has a black eye. you scream and yell threats at the man until the cops get called only to find out she slipped in the shower.
This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 11 2020 11:32am