Wow

So Iif Bernie runs that could all change

Lmfao loser returns and blames Barnie Sanders for all the things

e: obligatory: thanks for the fuckin laugh!!!

This post was edited by excellence on Feb 12 2018 11:12am

Runs for president? I don't think anything will substantially change the fundraising problem that is specific to the DNC -- the damage is done there. If Sanders were to run and become the Democratic nominee then that might cause a chunk of his supporters to then begin to view the DNC favorably (once they finally figured out the CT horseshit they spewed for years wasn't true), but I don't expect it would change much on balance because his supporters would still prefer to donate to him directly.

What would be interesting in that scenario would be how actual Democrats responded. Would they continue donating to the DNC in order to help bail Bernie out of what would be a sizable spending disadvantage? Would they donate exclusively to non-Sanders candidates? Would the DSCC/DCCC still be beating the NRSC/NRCC?

A lot of people think this way, they arent wrong.. but imo he just made how corrupt clinton is transparent. He really did do a lot of people a favor, clinton fan boys just get upset because they turn a blind eye to how two faced, corrupt, and money seeking she is because shes a woman and trump said mean things

We have some pretty evident biases in our media, but the wider media isn't biased in the way that so many people often claim -- such as that it blatantly favors one party over the other and actively supports one party over the other. That doesn't exist outside of Fox News.

Our media's biases towards poor practices definitely has an impact on elections, it has a MASSIVE impact. People can make a compelling argument (and some have) that the wider media's handling of 2016 electoral coverage threw the very race itself to Trump, specifically on the basis of how outlets covered the Comey letter(s) and moreover the entire "issue" of Clinton email use in a breathless tone for 2 whole years.



You would need to specify what issues you're talking about here for me to be able to respond. It's important to remember some basic electoral history: Clinton actually lost a winnable election (maybe even one where she was the favorite at the outset) in 2008 specifically because she refused to change her position on the Iraq War, even as others did/pleaded for her to do so. This is a major reason why the whole "Clinton changes her position to please different people or groups" trope doesn't really work with people like me who've had to study way too much political history. Context is everything.

>socialist candidate accused of stealing from dnc
>trump accused of fascism

If bernie was black would he beat hillary?

"its all bernies fault", somehow I feel like Pollsters attempted deflection won't even gain traction within his own already deluded party, because at least some of them aren't total retards

Lol nice spin. DNC colludes against Bernie to give Hillary the nomination, afterwards he gets in line obediently and endorses her but it's somehow his fault they are corrupt pieces of shit?

A small minority of people in the Democratic Party think the way he does. The problem is that virtually all of the leadership, the people he listens to, think this way. I know because I work for them, too. The left in general though doesn't buy into it. That's why the DNC has a problem. The majority of people on the left see through the bullshit, but the party refuses to acknowledge it. So they spew their bullshit into impressionable minds and those people sincerely come here to defend these losing positions. Until the party relinquishes the platform to the people (i.e. democrats start acting like they are in favor of greater direct democracy instead of representative republicanism), this will continue to be a problem that fuels internal strife and dissent among the left.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Feb 12 2018 02:55pm

this.

that pollster guy must be a troll. no sentinent living being could post such retarded shit.