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I won't say one pull quote represents an entire demographic but SoCons are absolutely oblivious if they think the GOP will hold onto their majority by recycling the fear/hate playbook of 2004. There aren't many "districts where Trump has strong support" in the House Battleground, the few of those that do exist are rural GOP vote sinks the party gerrymandered into electoral irrelevance in 2011.

Donations are up to transgendered candidates because donations are up to everyone (at least in Democratic politics). More everyone is running for office: more women, more POC, more veterans, more people from the STEM field, more first-time candidates.



Isnt the DNC going bankrupt?
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Isnt the DNC going bankrupt?


I believe they came into this year with about $6 mil COH, roughly similar to their outstanding debt. Their 2017 figures were similar to 2013 and 2015, but undershot some all-time highs (and where people think they could or should be now). There are some pretty simple reasons for this, and a couple of rather complex reasons.

The most obvious reason is that Democratic donors are now overwhelmingly donating straight to candidates, preferring them to committees of any kind and breaking previous fundraising records by several orders of magnitude. A complex reason is the campaign Bernie Sanders ran in 2016: he effectively poisoned the well among his disaffected, Dem-leaning supporters and made it so that they'll never donate to a campaign committee of any kind, especially the DNC. The DSCC and DCCC are still regularly outraising the NRSC and NRCC, but the DNC is likely forever tarnished by the dishonest smear-campaign that Sanders ran against them.
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Feb 12 2018 10:31am
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I believe they came into this year with about $6 mil COH, roughly similar to their outstanding debt. Their 2017 figures were similar to 2013 and 2015, but undershot some all-time highs (and where people think they could or should be now). There are some pretty simple reasons for this, and a couple of rather complex reasons.

The most obvious reason is that Democratic donors are now overwhelmingly donating straight to candidates, preferring them to committees of any kind and breaking previous fundraising records by several orders of magnitude. A complex reason is the campaign Bernie Sanders ran in 2016: he effectively poisoned the well among his disaffected, Dem-leaning supporters and made it so that they'll never donate to a campaign committee of any kind, especially the DNC. The DSCC and DCCC are still regularly outraising the NRSC and NRCC, but the DNC is likely forever tarnished by the dishonest smear-campaign that Sanders ran against them.


Dishonest smear campaign?
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Feb 12 2018 10:33am
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Dishonest smear campaign?


Bernie Sanders was in league with Russia and betrayed his queen and the sworn loyalty he owed her. When she takes the throne, his treasons will not be forgotten.
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Dishonest smear campaign?


A central theme of Sanders' 2016 primary campaign was attacking the DNC, the basis of those attacks were his own characterizations of events that were demonstrably false:

1) His characterization of his loss of VAN access in December 2015 was thoroughly dishonest. In reality, his campaign tried to steal proprietary data from the Clinton campaign multiple times. Not only did he refuse to concede this basic fact, he disgustingly sued the DNC for temporarily interrupting his access until his and Clinton's data could be walled off from one another after an unprecedented breach.

2) He alleged that the DNC "rigged" the contest(s) for Clinton, which was obviously untrue. The entire claim rested on uninformed people not knowing the professional responsibilities of communication staff, and Sanders and his team sowed that discord knowing full well that what he was accusing the DNC of was literally impossible.

The way he campaigned had massive consequences for the DNC and the entire Democratic party.
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Feb 12 2018 10:46am
'member when Hillary used all the state DNC/DFL/DNPL for laundering money to her national campaign and milking them dry
And how she was given full control over all the DNC apparatus a year before the primaries even began, with all decision making, staffing, strategy, press releases, research, etc of the DNC passed through her campaign, while ostensibly holding a primary against Bernie?

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A central theme of Sanders' 2016 primary campaign was attacking the DNC, the basis of those attacks were his own characterizations of events that were demonstrably false:

1) His characterization of his loss of VAN access in December 2015 was thoroughly dishonest. In reality, his campaign tried to steal proprietary data from the Clinton campaign multiple times. Not only did he refuse to concede this basic fact, he disgustingly sued the DNC for temporarily interrupting his access until his and Clinton's data could be walled off from one another after an unprecedented breach.

2) He alleged that the DNC "rigged" the contest(s) for Clinton, which was obviously untrue. The entire claim rested on uninformed people not knowing the professional responsibilities of communication staff, and Sanders and his team sowed that discord knowing full well that what he was accusing the DNC of was literally impossible.

The way he campaigned had massive consequences for the DNC and the entire Democratic party.


Sanders is a scumbag who has never had a real job in his life. Thats why hes a socialist, advocating that the government should make everyone middle class and that its ok to never do an honest days work validates the way he has lived his life.

But it was a little rigged with the media saying he never had a chance from the beginning. Also clinton getting all the projected super candidates from the get go
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Sanders is a scumbag who has never had a real job in his life. Thats why hes a socialist, advocating that the government should make everyone middle class and that its ok to never do an honest days work validates the way he has lived his life.

But it was a little rigged with the media saying he never had a chance from the beginning. Also clinton getting all the projected super candidates from the get go


Accurate reporting of current vote totals by media outlets is not evidence of something being "rigged." Superdelegates can change their vote throughout the campaign (that famously happened in 2008). Media outlets were just being diligent in their reporting in correctly noting how much support Clinton had earned at present; it would have been totally irresponsible for any reporter or commentator to wave off Clinton's accrued level of superdelegate support on the basis that it isn't permanent.

Clinton earned the SUPERs' support because she was the better candidate. She demonstrated that over and over again throughout the primary, in every conceivable way that 1 candidate can beat another candidate. It wasn't a mystery why so many SUPERs backed her over Sanders and did so early on: they have a much higher political acumen than ordinary Americans. They knew that she had built the real operation.
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Feb 12 2018 11:03am
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Accurate reporting of current vote totals by media outlets is not evidence of something being "rigged." Superdelegates can change their vote throughout the campaign (that famously happened in 2008). Media outlets were just being diligent in their reporting in correctly noting how much support Clinton had earned at present; it would have been totally irresponsible for any reporter or commentator to wave off Clinton's accrued level of superdelegate support on the basis that it isn't permanent.

Clinton earned the SUPERs' support because she was the better candidate. She demonstrated that over and over again throughout the primary, in every conceivable way that 1 candidate can beat another candidate. It wasn't a mystery why so many SUPERs backed her over Sanders and did so early on: they have a much higher political acumen than ordinary Americans. They knew that she had built the real operation.


Why does it sound like you dont think the media is biased and was being fair. Also a followup would be, do you think the media holding a bias and reporting a tqisted version of the truth has no impact on expectations/votes

Edit: you sound like you really like Hillary, what do you think about her changing her mind on various issues throughout her career to obviously please a target demographic? You arent naive enough to believe her thoughts were "evolving" do you?

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