Airline collapse is the Democrats' lockdown fault anyway

Precisely.

LOL

So do you disagree with the president’s current rhetoric?




You see the problems with your average trumpist?

The argument being made by Trump et al is now piece by piece, which of course I agree with. Afterall we can largely agree a start is better than nothing. However you have ill informed individuals that literally just pick a side that they think is party lines without a semblance of thought.

The airlines' inability to put away cash for a rainy day (particularly in an industry generally adversely by economic downturn) has just as much to do with their problems. But they would rather buy back stock instead of building reserves.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/airlines-and-boeing-want-a-bailout-but-look-how-much-theyve-spent-on-stock-buybacks-2020-03-18

You should assess your reasoning skills, they appear to be lacking.

Omnibus Bills are a fucking cancer, but they're also the way things have been done for a very long time. They're done this way specifically so representatives and senators of each state can get benefits for their own state.

The problem is, the Covid Relief Bill is not supposed to have fuckall to do with the states specifically, it's supposed to provide relief for businesses and individuals who have been negatively impacted by lockdowns and unemployment that has been mandated on them against their will.

$1200 stimulus checks are something that all but the wealthiest would get that'd give a bit of a boost to everyone, because to some extent, everyone has been impacted. It can be managed because it's non-exclusive.

Nearly everything else is going to get kickback, primarily from blue states, because you have a bunch of blue states (with the worst offender being California) who've lost EXTREME tax revenue based on lack of business and lack of earnings, as well as a huge sector of the population simply LEAVING due to their fascistic policies. Any Omnibus bill has been and will continue to be blocked unless "they get paid" to make up for their losses in tax revenues. Even though those losses are of their own making.

Allowing for any single element to be left out from the Omnibus bill that is non-exclusionary would be the first step towards walking away from omnibus bills entirely. No Democrat-led state wants that. It simply won't happen. On the flipside, if they allow something like an exclusionary airline employees thing to go through when these are people who haven't had to spend the last 6 months without work and often without even unemployment payouts due to shitty state management, quite literally everyone is going to point at Trump and say, "Dude, you're a fucking asshole who's definitely NOT in it for the little guy."

Don't accuse people of being uninformed when you clearly don't understand shit. We understand the game and the goals. Do you?

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Oct 7 2020 06:57pm

i can easily agree the stimulus for the airlines should have already been signed in a standalone deal and its the republicans fault for not doing so

on the other hand im not sure i disagree with his post in general. airlines are horribly run industries which treat their customers like trash and never act like cash is an important asset, as mentioned. they have something close to monopolies and have every way under the sun to nickel and dime their customers.

now should the honest workers suffer for the awful performance of the ridiculous management? my personal opinion is no

This post was edited by excellence on Oct 7 2020 07:00pm

Dems provide airline relief bill
Republicans say no
Trump says we need airline relief bill
Mnuchin tells Pelosi to reintroduce same bill that was just blocked

Who is talking about said omnibus bill? This entire vomit post has nothing to do with what I even initially quoted. Your literal response to airline relief was fuck airlines. I am only left to assume you know what the current Trump strategy is. That, or you against his policy for the reasons you quoted above (blah blah fuck the airlines post).

I will reiterate the same implied question:

Are you for or against presidents Trump’s present piece by piece approach (including one of his main three points to provide additional airline relief)?

The point isn’t that bailing out airlines should be exclusive. I don’t have any airline stock or sympathy for airlines. I think some of them need to go bankrupt. The point is that most trumpists simultaneously argue conflicting points. He just said the dems only introduce “Omnibills”, and there have been no Republican house shenanigans, then backtrack to “well ok fuck the airlines.” Like just be consistent.

Watch now Democrat’s won’t even put forth their same legislation because now trump wants them to. This is the level of idiocy that is our elected congress. Like we have been saying and I think we both largely agree, to say only one side has been a thorn is x2 sets of airmuffs. The Republican camp is fairly divided on this, the ones up for re-election now like graham and Ernst ofc want to sign something, whereas the ones up in 2 years are saying fuck ya’ll. Now the coin will flip and dems up in 2 years might play some games with reintroducing this specific relief

This post was edited by Bazi on Oct 7 2020 07:09pm

Profit is a function of demand, glue eater. The hysteria that killed demand was created by the Democrat/Media conglomerate

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Oct 7 2020 07:04pm

There are millions of Americans who haven't received any form of paycheck whatsoever, who's unemployment ran out, or they simply never received any to start, who only have homes because they currently cannot be evicted.

Entire segments of the business sector are forcibly shut down, with roughly 60% of all small businesses that have been mandated to shut down projected to NEVER be able to reopen.

There are quite literally MILLIONS of people who need relief and due to the greed of house democrats looking for $800 Billion in state benefits, those people and businesses aren't receiving shit. Why on Earth should Trump provide yet another bailout to the airlines, who are one of the few industries who've been 100% covered for the last 6 months, and who ALSO got to avoid lockdown?

Who's talking about the omnibus bill? Everyone who's frustrated that Democrat greed has prevented multiple industries from receiving help, and is now watching them try to get the airlines yet Billions more worth in bailouts.