How dare someone suggest that the CIA could be involved in clandestine operations / color revolutions / regime changes and outright putsches

There's a difference between "The CIA co-opted the coup and took over afterwards" and "The CIA organized the coup in the first place". I'm not sure its anything but an academic difference, because the culpability and power grab is the same whether its opportunistic or by design.
It certainly doesn't change the geopolitical chessboard

We know from the CIA's history that they've clearly organized these kinds of color revolutions as artificial movements to overthrow governments around the world, yet they've also covered their tracks for contemporary reports. Which puts us in one of those known-unknown situations, the absence of evidence doesn't move the needle one way or the other.

In both cases you get the same outcome. For Russia it was simply critical that Yanukovych remained in power and when he was removed Russia took over Crimea.

Anyways we know why the CIA was founded

If the absence of evidence doesn't move the needle that is entirely your perogative.

I accept your version of events as what you believe happened, even if I find your explanation entirely gymnastic and a little bit like working back from an outcome rather than looking at the evidence and then coming to a conclusion.
A little bit like djunior claiming NATO expansion was the cause of Putins invasion or that John Mccain doing a speech 4 weeks after the Maidan started was the cause for the Maidan
That one cracks me up.

However I obviously disagree.

As its topical I'll share a quote from one of the greatest minds my country has ever produced and although I should take no credit for his wisdom I am proud that the Scottish enlightenment brought so much value to the world of science and beyond.

"A wise man apportions his beliefs to the evidence. The sweetest and most inoffensive path of life leads through the avenues
of science and learning; and whoever can either remove any obstructions in this way, or open up any new prospect, ought so far to be esteemed a benefactor to mankind." - David Hume

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on May 9 2024 01:03pm

1) You act like a sore loser by twisting my words. You're fully aware I never said that

2) Uses quote from a guy born May 7, 1711. Pinnacle of the Scottish enlightenment it's been downhill ever since LMAO




In Moscow

Your every premise is that Mccain somehow triggered the Maidan.
But you've proved your not interested in honest discussion, your obsessed with creating a narrative.

Its unsurprising you fall hook, line and sinker for Putins garbage.
Rich of you to insult a country that provided literally thousands of inventions and genius' and yet you never explain where you are from. Thats sad.

Am I the only one who thinks these vehicles look like gigantic dicks on wheels? Hell, they even have to be erected and point toward the sky before they can fire their load...

Mad girth and highly phallic.

I hope to see Putin ride that nuke through a river while topless, what is Oliver Stone upto these days?

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on May 9 2024 04:42pm

Lies

Quote me, lol

I said that McCain addressed the protesters @Maidain it's 100% clear that addressing the protesters means that the protest is already underway

NO ONE here has ever said what you claim and why would they when we can check the dates hell even the video I posted shows the date it was uploaded

It's just your usual BS trying to twist my words and that's what's sad




Gigantic for sure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-24_Yars

Reportedly they operate over 50 of those vehicles

These are probably the most formidable ICBMs in the world is that what makes you uncomfortable?

Yes, Putin showing off his gigantic rocket is making me nervous. /s