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May 2 2024 07:52pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 3 2024 03:50am)
Which argument are you trying to make?


That a certain country massively ramped up their oil and gas production. I'm sure you can connect the dots
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Quote (Djunior @ 3 May 2024 03:52)
That a certain country massively ramped up their oil and gas production. I'm sure you can connect the dots


Since 2022, there were high prices and high demand on the global markets. Doesn't necessarily take a nefarious scheme by the US for their oil and gas sector to ramp up production under these circumstances. Other countries, for example Norway, are also pumping away like crazy. Also note that the US gains on the global oil (and gas) market would be significantly smaller if OPEC hadn't stuck with its cap. A cap which they might not be able to sustain much longer:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-31/saudi-arabia-s-economy-shrinks-again-after-kingdom-s-oil-cuts

Further note that the Biden admin has generally pursued anti-fossil policies; under a different administration, the US oil and gas sector would most definitely be booming even harder. This, again, contradicts the notion that some nefarious shadow players in the US provoked this war in a 16-years-long, "ten dimensional chess" attempt at stealing market shares in Europe from Russia.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 3 2024 04:02am)
Since 2022, there were high prices and high demand on the global markets. Doesn't necessarily take a nefarious scheme by the US for their oil and gas sector to ramp up production under these circumstances. Other countries, for example Norway, are also pumping away like crazy. Also note that the US gains on the global oil (and gas) market would be significantly smaller if OPEC hadn't stuck by its cap. A cap which they might not be able to sustain much longer:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-31/saudi-arabia-s-economy-shrinks-again-after-kingdom-s-oil-cuts

Further note that the Biden admin has generally pursued anti-fossil policies; under a different administration, the US oil and gas sector would most definitely be booming even harder. This, again, contradicts the notion that some nefarious shadow players in the US provoked this war in a 5D chess attempt at stealing market shares in Europe from Russia.


Where did I say a nefarious scheme? I'm pointing out the relation between US oil production and geo-political tensions

e: nowhere did I even hint that the US started the war to drive up oil prices are you okay? :wacko:

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Quote (Djunior @ 3 May 2024 04:05)
Where did I say a nefarious scheme? I'm pointing out the relation between US oil production and geo-political tensions

Oh please, you have consistently argued that the US provoked this war and then post something to the gist of "oh hey, look who the main beneficiary of this war is"... "I'm sure you can connect the dots".
It's blatantly obvious what you are trying to insinuate.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 3 2024 04:08am)
Oh please, you have consistently argued that the US provoked this war and then post something to the gist of "oh hey, look who the main beneficiary of this war is"... "I'm sure you can connect the dots".
It's blatantly obvious what you are trying to insinuate.


I've consistently pointed out NATO provoked this war, never have I said the US provoked the war to push up oil prices. Link my posts lol

Clearly I'm reacting to your post where you say oil prices came down to normal and I posted the reason why.

I shouldn't have asked you to connect the dots, you completely failed to see the relation here
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Quote (Djunior @ 3 May 2024 04:13)
I've consistently pointed out NATO provoked this war, never have I said the US provoked the war to push up oil prices. Link my posts lol

Clearly I'm reacting to your post where you say oil prices came down to normal and I posted the reason why.

I shouldn't have asked you to connect the dots, you completely failed to see the relation here


Really crazy that countries seek protection from russias aggressive foreign policy
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Quote (BaHgerAUT @ May 3 2024 08:52am)
Really crazy that countries seek protection from russias aggressive foreign policy


Lets conveniently forget the Wests aggressive policies / coups / wars

lol

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Quote (Djunior @ 3 May 2024 09:07)
Lets conveniently forget the Wests aggressive policies / coups / wars

lol


show me the country that goes to russia these days for security guarantees
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Quote (BaHgerAUT @ May 3 2024 10:27am)
show me the country that goes to russia these days for security guarantees


Google BRICS
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Quote (Djunior @ May 3 2024 09:49am)
Google BRICS


LOL

Not a security alliance. Pml :thumbsup:
The last country to be failed by Russias security guarantee was Armenia, literally this year.

Lmao

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on May 3 2024 02:59am
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