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Quote (excellence @ Jul 10 2020 11:50pm)
i’m informed of the theory, the question was where in the world is this Marxism prevalent

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The function of the Leninist vanguard party is to provide the working classes with the political consciousness (education and organisation) and revolutionary leadership necessary to depose capitalism


source: some book wiki cites called The New Fontana Dictionary of Modern Thought Third Edition (1999) pp. 476–477.

both stalin and mao took very similiar derivatives of this path

no need for the hostility and harsh language, you seem upset and it’s probably a function of your pale pasty privilege acting up again


Stalin rapidly industrialized Russia in a fraction of time it took the US. They had a marxism that was less than ideal and they became the serfs that flew in space and we are still bumming rides to space with their old shit because they're better at it than us.

They because a world super power on par with US. Only an really stupid person, and really stupid, thinks the system that created a super powerful, first space farring nation, was a failure.

Like a world class stupid person.

"But they didn't have 17 different disposable shaving razors to choose from".

This post was edited by Skinned on Jul 11 2020 05:10am
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Quote (inkanddagger @ 11 Jul 2020 01:35)
Lenin's revolution created capitalism in Russia.

Mao set up capitalism in China.

Both of them wrote extensively about this.

Read a book you uneducated little dipshit. Call me privileged and think you can get away with pushing talking points about things that you haven't even got the slightest clue about? You're the one relying on privilege. You're one of the stupidest pieces of shit I have ever encountered in my life. You're a fucking moron. You can't even read a fucking wiki entry and debate from there, let alone read books and comprehend them enough to have an intelligent conversation. You smell like a shit stain on an incel's tighty whiteys. You smell like Q Anon's fucking unwashed socks. Donald Trump's orange tanner stirred into a vat of Mike Pence's Santorum.

Buddy, look I don’t care. I’m just curious how much you bench because I bench 420 and I’m only 21. What are you? 23 or something? Hah it’s funny because you are a weak pathetic piece of shit. My friends call me a Rambo, so you can just call me Rambo. I’ll have you know I passed high school with a 3.0 GPA and I’m now currently in military school. You probably couldn’t even pass the entrance exam to get into it, I’ll have you know it requires an 80% overall average on the exam to even get accepted. The best part is, I got a 90%. You? Absolutely nothing you worthless piece of shit. Tell me where you live because I’m probably going to be heading there soon. Just going to warn you I could probably fuck you up in an instant. The fact that I’m 21 and lift more than you ever can is funny. When I graduate military school I will be serving my country and making a 6 figure income. What will you be making? Less than me just like how you lift less you loser. If I ever come to where ever you live I’ll fuck you up.

>lenin’s revolution deposed capitalism so he could set up capitalism
well if you say so. sorry that your privilege upsets you

Quote (Skinned @ 11 Jul 2020 07:00)
Stalin rapidly industrialized Russia in a fraction of time it took the US. They had a marxism that was less than ideal and they became the serfs that flew in space and we are still bumming rides to space with their old shit because they're better at it than us.

They because a world super power on par with US. Only an really stupid person, and really stupid, thinks the system that created a super powerful, first space farring nation, was a failure.

Like a world class stupid person.

"But they didn't have 17 different disposable shaving razors to choose from".

so you’re saying communism was a success under stalin
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Jul 11 2020 07:32am
Quote (excellence @ Jul 11 2020 09:30am)
>lenin’s revolution deposed capitalism so he could set up capitalism
well if you say so. sorry that your privilege upsets you


so you’re saying communism was a success under stalin


Under what measure?
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Quote (Skinned @ 11 Jul 2020 09:32)
Under what measure?

you made the assertion not me, feel free to define it further if necessary. per you we now ‘have an example where communism was legit and did not fail’: ussr
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Quote (Skinned @ Jul 11 2020 07:00am)
Stalin rapidly industrialized Russia in a fraction of time it took the US. They had a marxism that was less than ideal and they became the serfs that flew in space and we are still bumming rides to space with their old shit because they're better at it than us.

They because a world super power on par with US. Only an really stupid person, and really stupid, thinks the system that created a super powerful, first space farring nation, was a failure.

Like a world class stupid person.

"But they didn't have 17 different disposable shaving razors to choose from".



The economic system was and remains a failure. My grandparents and parents lived through it. Constant shortages, constant oversupply of sizes that were either too big or too small. My grandparents had an attic full of rubles in 1990, like many other people. People had money and the basics Like food were in abundance but things like cars, decent furniture, decent clothing etc wereconstantly in shortage.
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Jul 11 2020 08:31am
Quote (Skinned @ Jul 11 2020 07:00am)
Stalin rapidly industrialized Russia in a fraction of time it took the US. They had a marxism that was less than ideal and they became the serfs that flew in space and we are still bumming rides to space with their old shit because they're better at it than us.

They because a world super power on par with US. Only an really stupid person, and really stupid, thinks the system that created a super powerful, first space farring nation, was a failure.

Like a world class stupid person.

"But they didn't have 17 different disposable shaving razors to choose from".


Probably because they didn't have to invent it... they just copied the US. Same as China did after that.

Btw... Elon Musk... Sapce X (the Space Station doesn't really count as... space).

This post was edited by Ghot on Jul 11 2020 08:37am
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Quote (Skinned @ Jul 11 2020 01:00pm)
Stalin rapidly industrialized Russia in a fraction of time it took the US. They had a marxism that was less than ideal and they became the serfs that flew in space and we are still bumming rides to space with their old shit because they're better at it than us.

They because a world super power on par with US. Only an really stupid person, and really stupid, thinks the system that created a super powerful, first space farring nation, was a failure.

Like a world class stupid person.

"But they didn't have 17 different disposable shaving razors to choose from".


Told you before but you should really move to Venezuela. Let us how you like it there when you have no disposable razors to choose from

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Quote (Skinned @ Jul 11 2020 06:00am)
Stalin rapidly industrialized Russia in a fraction of time it took the US. They had a marxism that was less than ideal and they became the serfs that flew in space and we are still bumming rides to space with their old shit because they're better at it than us.

They because a world super power on par with US. Only an really stupid person, and really stupid, thinks the system that created a super powerful, first space farring nation, was a failure.

Like a world class stupid person.

"But they didn't have 17 different disposable shaving razors to choose from".


"Marxism less than ideal"

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Stalin and other party members had ordered that kulaks were "to be liquidated as a class"[19] and so they became a target for the state. The richer, land-owning peasants were labeled "kulaks" and were portrayed by the Bolsheviks as class enemies, which culminated in a Soviet campaign of political repressions, including arrests, deportations, and executions of large numbers of the better-off peasants and their families in 1929–1932


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Lewis H. Siegelbaum, Professor of History at Michigan State University, states that Ukraine was hit particularly hard by grain quotas which were set at levels which most farms could not produce. The 1933 harvest was poor, coupled with the extremely high quota level, which led to starvation conditions. The shortages were blamed on kulak sabotage, and authorities distributed what supplies were available only in the urban areas. The loss of life in the Ukrainian countryside is estimated at approximately 5 million people.[30]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333


The low estimate:

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It has been estimated that between 3.3[7] and 3.9 million died in Ukraine[8] and 2 million (40% of all Kazakhs) died in Kazakhstan.[9][10][11][12]]


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