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Jul 10 2020 05:40pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 11 2020 01:35am)
How do you overcome the moral hazards of distorted demand on essential goods?


well the idea of communism was the way through socialism, where everytime ppl failed due greed.
i know many people who would love to work like on fields to get the ppls food.

+ btw can you answer me your own question pls? its good question, think about it.
this is what the topic is about. think about the problems and solve :banana:

+ think about what you really need. not like callcenters and stuff no one needs, which is just invented to make $

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Jul 10 2020 06:07pm
So which communism are you referring to here? And also I think the whole idea is too idealistic and relies on totally benevolent society for that to even begin working.
Its like trying to herd cats

Also take away the greed and fractional reserve banking and capitalistic system becomes waay more pragmatic and beneficial to our species.

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Jul 10 2020 06:21pm
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There are good and bad employers in a capitalistic society and the worst that can happen is being black balled in a particular industry. Not to mention you are free to criticize your employer and the consequences are at most your job.

When the employer is the always the state and there is no where else to go you get situations like this with much harsher consequences for criticizing your employer. I do believe op is a communist.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/06/xu-zhangrun-outspoken-critic-of-xi-jinping-detained-by-police-in-beijing
Chinese professor Xu Zhangrun, known for his scathing and public criticisms of China’s leader Xi Jinping, has been detained, according to friends of the legal scholar.

Two friends of Xu, speaking on the condition of anonymity to avoid reprisals, told the Guardian that he had been detained on Monday morning. According to one, around 20 police officers and 10 vehicles arrived at his home in Beijing and took Xu away.

According to a statement online, also by a friend of Xu’s, a dozen officers entered his residence, seizing his computer and other items before detaining him.

After publishing several public attacks on the Chinese leadership, Xu was placed under house arrest early this year and barred from social media with his internet cut off.


That in itself is an oxymoron. Dictatorship in disguise
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Jul 10 2020 07:19pm
Quote (excellence @ Jul 10 2020 10:28am)
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iPhones are made in factories by workers. That still happens under communism, but the workers own the capital produced instead of a capitalist.

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Jul 10 2020 07:26pm
- End the 40-hour work week.
- Abolish private property, particularly the forms that allow for landlordship.
- Convert forms of industry and production into worker co-ops.
- Completely detangle healthcare from employment, and provide universal healthcare.
- Pay living wages.
- Significantly tax the rich at levels much higher than current ones.
- Institute a UBI.

There, I have created a liberal utopia.
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Jul 10 2020 07:36pm
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iPhones are made in factories by workers. That still happens under communism, but the workers own the capital produced instead of a capitalist.


commisar cletus along with commisar cheslav and commisar chiang would be there to enforce the “efficiency” of the means of production in a communist state. similiar to the ussr, ccp, etc.
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Jul 10 2020 07:53pm
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commisar cletus along with commisar cheslav and commisar chiang would be there to enforce the “efficiency” of the means of production in a communist state. similiar to the ussr, ccp, etc.



There is no such thing as a communist state. Communism is stateless and classless. Leninism-Stalinist-Maoism were all explicitly state capitalist monopolist dictatorships.
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Jul 10 2020 08:39pm
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There is no such thing as a communist state. Communism is stateless and classless. Leninism-Stalinist-Maoism were all explicitly state capitalist monopolist dictatorships.


where?

funny wordplay attributing Lenin/Stalin/Mao’s reigns to capitalism given they all toppled capitalism in their political theory and execution of said theory
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Jul 10 2020 09:16pm
I could do it easily in australia.
Nationalise all resources.
End unskilled immigration.
Universal basic income.
Flat 20% tax rate on everyone and eliminate all loopholes.
Free higher education if you complete your studies within X amount of time and find work in that field, otherwise you pay market value.
If you want to do business here you have to have a corporate office on australian soil and pay tax on profits made here.

Then let capitalism go wild, any one who manages success within this system has done it to the benefit of everyone.

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Jul 10 2020 09:21pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Jul 10 2020 08:26pm)
- End the 40-hour work week.
- Abolish private property, particularly the forms that allow for landlordship.
- Convert forms of industry and production into worker co-ops.
- Completely detangle healthcare from employment, and provide universal healthcare.
- Pay living wages.
- Significantly tax the rich at levels much higher than current ones.
- Institute a UBI.

There, I have created a liberal utopia.


i like the UBI.
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