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Jul 10 2020 12:35pm
Quote (Skinned @ Jul 10 2020 08:10pm)
Not my theory, it is Karl Marx's theory. I am just espousing it though now at this time.

I supposed you are saying the Soviets just lazily stole the Germans successful space program. Lol. Didn't know the germans were in space, i thought they just had bitchin rockets.

Fucking Space Reich.


Those gers invented the first ballistic rocket (V2). The soviets were rounding up any ger rocket engineer they could find and shipped them to the USSR.

So did the US btw and shipped home 1600 ger engineers and scientists including Wernher von Braun the daddy of the V2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun



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Jul 10 2020 12:42pm
Quote (Bananii @ Jul 10 2020 12:16pm)
Sick of all the bad stuff happening in the world?
Sick of the compound interest system which devides rich and poor more and more?
Sick of senceless invested Jobs destroying humanity due making us ill, dumb and crazy instead of deviding job times to the ppls we actually got?

Since JSP has one of the only real democratic discussion sections left in the internet, where (mostly) intelligent ppls around, i have to (before its said "you never tried") open this thread for letting us intelligent ppls find the way out of the shit.

So, before we start 1 Rule:
you guys have to accept that real communism has never existed, it was socialism and dont hang on old depressions, look forward.
discuss.

Think about the Fact, that ppl are connected worldwide for many years now, which will never change for future.
Think about removing patent rights.

You Guys want peace on earth? Remove Capitalism first


Did you try to open the thread before June 5th 2020?
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Jul 10 2020 12:47pm
Interesting article on poverty in the USSR. I was under the impression that they'd have better safety nets than western societies with their mixture of capitalism and socialism.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1989-01-30-8903010453-story.html
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Jul 10 2020 12:50pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Jul 10 2020 02:24pm)
There are good and bad employers in a capitalistic society and the worst that can happen is being black balled in a particular industry. Not to mention you are free to criticize your employer and the consequences are at most your job.

When the employer is the always the state and there is no where else to go you get situations like this with much harsher consequences for criticizing your employer. I do believe op is a communist.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/06/xu-zhangrun-outspoken-critic-of-xi-jinping-detained-by-police-in-beijing
Chinese professor Xu Zhangrun, known for his scathing and public criticisms of China’s leader Xi Jinping, has been detained, according to friends of the legal scholar.

Two friends of Xu, speaking on the condition of anonymity to avoid reprisals, told the Guardian that he had been detained on Monday morning. According to one, around 20 police officers and 10 vehicles arrived at his home in Beijing and took Xu away.

According to a statement online, also by a friend of Xu’s, a dozen officers entered his residence, seizing his computer and other items before detaining him.

After publishing several public attacks on the Chinese leadership, Xu was placed under house arrest early this year and barred from social media with his internet cut off.


The problem here is the totalitarian political system. People who work for the state in the US can criticize the state.

I'm separating economic policy from political policy for the sake of debate. This is purely for intellectual exercise. We know political economy is married.

Quote (duffman316 @ Jul 10 2020 02:47pm)
Interesting article on poverty in the USSR. I was under the impression that they'd have better safety nets than western societies with their mixture of capitalism and socialism.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1989-01-30-8903010453-story.html


Pretty damning that capitalism and communism causes about the same amount of poverty in practice.

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Those gers invented the first ballistic rocket (V2). The soviets were rounding up any ger rocket engineer they could find and shipped them to the USSR.

So did the US btw and shipped home 1600 ger engineers and scientists including Wernher von Braun the daddy of the V2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun


Yeah Americans did that for sure.

Soviets use soviet scientist.

I view their space program like the Orcs in Warhammer 40k. Lol.
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Jul 10 2020 01:01pm
Quote (Skinned @ Jul 10 2020 08:54pm)
Yeah Americans did that for sure.

Soviets use soviet scientist.

I view their space program like the Orcs in Warhammer 40k. Lol.


The soviets did exactly the same.

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Jul 10 2020 03:39pm
OP drops a bomb then bounces lol
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Jul 10 2020 04:09pm
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Official Anti-capitalistic Brainstorm Thread


official (oxy)moron thread

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okay guys listen. History yeah well just keep it like it is, i shame to the human race. BUT look forwards, a better system instead of the "sad end of capitalism".
in fact, yeah, due that capitalistic "race" with wars etc we claimed the technology whe have now. the one faster, the one slower. in the end, everyone have it now. you guys think only 5 countrys can build nuclear bombs and go out of space? no, in fact like ALL countrys are able to do that. theyre just not allowed or to "poor" to invent that stuff or having the rights to do.

To repeat: I am NOT talking about communism. I am talking about a system with ideas like it. Ofc ppl who invent more work into sencefull stuff should "earn" more not like the ones who use drugs all day and liing under the bridge. totally right. but what if the ppl who invent stuff and do big things just earn "respekt" and "honor", for example the new anti-hiv stuff is called after the one who invent? isnt it worth much more then billions of $, while you know other ppl could use "that money"?

the system i search is about respekt, honor and proud. No need being rich, i need being surrounded by happy ppl. much more worth then $.
if you would all ppl on earth let have the joice between become an honor and respektful person or a sexaddict drugjunky who gets all for free - i bet even then more then 90% would choose the right path. For the beginning ofc there would be more #2 path ones, but over time they will feel such bad, since #1 no need care about those, that those guys dont want be the scum of sociaty... if there will be too much #2 path ones they should get an extra country for behaving like they want - they will delete themselve. ez.

Quote (Djunior @ Jul 10 2020 07:41pm)
(history shows communism fails everywhere)


Read Rules. Rule #1, the only rule here thx
+ i am NOT talking about those systems we had already, i want the system we get peace on earth. get creative, dont think about old stuff.

Quote (cambovenzi @ Jul 11 2020 12:09am)
official (oxy)moron thread


haters gonna hate nn care about you.

I want you guys to solve the problem, which is obviosly the capitalism.. cmon boys youre smarter then shooting up yourselfes... trust me
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Jul 10 2020 05:35pm
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