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Oct 23 2020 05:41am
You would have to be out of your mind to bet on Biden.

Of course anything can happen, but I really believe Trump will win.
I'm at a 75% chance of Trump winning.

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Oct 23 2020 05:55am
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You would have to be out of your mind to bet on Biden.

Of course anything can happen, but I really believe Trump will win.
I'm at a 75% chance of Trump winning.


i agree he'll win, but its gonna be funny if we're just HRC voters of 2016 and end up waking the next morning and saying wtf happened.
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i agree he'll win, but its gonna be funny if we're just HRC voters of 2016 and end up waking the next morning and saying wtf happened.



Definitely wouldn’t be betting one way or the other. 2016 showed us how polls can completely miss the picture.

A lot of people that will vote for Trump also keep their political leanings quiet due to stigma even when polled. It could be a landslide Biden win but i think it will be much closer than what the polls are telling us.
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Definitely wouldn’t be betting one way or the other. 2016 showed us how polls can completely miss the picture.

A lot of people that will vote for Trump also keep their political leanings quiet due to stigma even when polled. It could be a landslide Biden win but i think it will be much closer than what the polls are telling us.


2 Things i dont trust anymore, political polls and TV ratings. they dont pass the smell test anymore when we see results so starkly out of contrast with the reported numbers.
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2 Things i dont trust anymore, political polls and TV ratings. they dont pass the smell test anymore when we see results so starkly out of contrast with the reported numbers.



What we have to remember is polls are just statistical likelihood at the end of the day. Just because trump has a 15% chance to win doesn’t mean he won’t. If you had a 15% chance to win a million dollars, you would be backing your odds there. It is foolish writing trump off right now imo. Wounded bears are the most dangerous
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What we have to remember is polls are just statistical likelihood at the end of the day. Just because trump has a 15% chance to win doesn’t mean he won’t. If you had a 15% chance to win a million dollars, you would be backing your odds there. It is foolish writing trump off right now imo. Wounded bears are the most dangerous


100%, but i more mean i dont trust the % chances to win. mainly because when i look back at the 2016 election all the signs were there for Trump to take most of the battleground states, i was just too caught up in coastal politics. i abandoned my people and wont make the mistake of downplaying the midwest again. i care more about corn prices and UAW contracts from the army now than global warming or healthcare.
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100%, but i more mean i dont trust the % chances to win. mainly because when i look back at the 2016 election all the signs were there for Trump to take most of the battleground states, i was just too caught up in coastal politics. i abandoned my people and wont make the mistake of downplaying the midwest again. i care more about corn prices and UAW contracts from the army now than global warming or healthcare.



Yeah I think that is certainly fair. I think the pollsters have made progress since 2016, I mean how many of us are getting spammed to hell with poll texts. 2018 polls were pretty spot on. But I completely agree the numbers that were saying 13% chance of trump win I don’t think are realistically that low

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i agree he'll win, but its gonna be funny if we're just HRC voters of 2016 and end up waking the next morning and saying wtf happened.


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Definitely wouldn’t be betting one way or the other. 2016 showed us how polls can completely miss the picture.

A lot of people that will vote for Trump also keep their political leanings quiet due to stigma even when polled. It could be a landslide Biden win but i think it will be much closer than what the polls are telling us.


Yep, the Democrats are, allegedly, currently underperforming in regards to mail in voting which was basically what they were preached to do -- based on what I've heard. You talk to most Democrat voters and many of them have done this.

Donald Trump preached to his voter base to vote in person.

We could have it where just the Trump voters never show and I'm completely wrong. That could happen.

Add in:

Secret Trump Voter Base

Mail In Ballot Errors (getting rejected due to improperly filled out)

Enthusiasm gap to vote possibly (Trump Lovers vs. Trump Haters -- but many of these Trump haters also do not like Biden much)

I believe the Hispanic vote for Trump will be much better than 2016, possibly some of the Black vote.

He might have lost some of the white women vote though, I could see that occurring. There is a lot of them that hate his character and that's a major reason for them voting the way they probably will.

Who knows.
Come on November 3rd! I want to see what happens.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Oct 23 2020 07:44am
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Yeah I think that is certainly fair. I think the pollsters have made progress since 2016, I mean how many of us are getting spammed to hell with poll texts. 2018 polls were pretty spot on. But I completely agree the numbers that were saying 13% chance of trump win I don’t think are realistically that low


ive not answered a single spam call or text, must be hundreds by this time..... battle ground states do suck for that reason, they hammer us. im sure iowa isnt much different.

Quote (GLYC123 @ Oct 23 2020 08:41am)
Yep, the Democrats are, allegedly, currently underperforming in regards to mail in voting which was basically what they were preached to do -- based on what I've heard. You talk to most Democrat voters and many of them have done this.

Donald Trump preached to his voter base to vote in person.

We could have it where just the Trump voters never show and I'm completely wrong. That could happen.

Add in:
Secret Trump Voter Base
Mail In Ballot Errors (getting rejected due to improperly filled out)
Enthusiasm gap to vote possibly (Trump Lovers vs. Trump Haters -- but many of these Trump haters also do not like Biden much)


trump started off like that, but now he's preaching hard to vote by mail and request ballots. i think his internals are showing in person only means he loses.

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ive not answered a single spam call or text, must be hundreds by this time..... battle ground states do suck for that reason, they hammer us. im sure iowa isnt much different.


My common responses are

“This is Donald Trump how may I help you?”

“I am leader of the communist party”

“I am top .000001% don’t talk to me “
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