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Jun 25 2019 05:11pm
Quote (LA-Leviathan @ Jun 26 2019 10:10am)
I can never figure out if people like you are serious or just intentionally being ignorant/disingenuous.
Yeah no shit you can't get anything done with ZERO people. Wow what a genius comment, guess you win.
In your example, Steph makes great money because she has skills, I don't see the problem but I guess your problem is why isn't steph a branch manager?
Go get the job, if you have the skills nothing is stopping you from doing it. I have no idea what your point is.
Also your fictitious example is ridiculous, I know any manager I have worked with has been very important.


If you can not see my point the issue is your reading comprehension.
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Jun 25 2019 05:14pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 25 2019 11:11pm)
If you can not see my point the issue is your reading comprehension.


Must be.
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Jun 25 2019 05:18pm
How hard do you think a managers job is?
If you can use excel you can manage most locations.
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Jun 25 2019 05:22pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 25 2019 11:18pm)
How hard do you think a managers job is?
If you can use excel you can manage most locations.


Again I don't see what your point is?
If it's so easy, then anyone can go do the job.
You don't know the first thing about managing anything if you think a managers qualifications are "use excel"
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Jun 25 2019 05:25pm
Quote (LA-Leviathan @ Jun 26 2019 10:22am)
Again I don't see what your point is?
If it's so easy, then anyone can go do the job.
You don't know the first thing about managing anything if you think a managers qualifications are "use excel"


I am a regional area manager for bp australia, i have 11 stores under me, what are your qualifications?
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Jun 25 2019 05:27pm
Quote (LA-Leviathan @ Jun 25 2019 05:22pm)
Again I don't see what your point is?
If it's so easy, then anyone can go do the job.
You don't know the first thing about managing anything if you think a managers qualifications are "use excel"


There's a reason the job title is "manager" and not "leader".
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Jun 25 2019 05:42pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 26 2019 10:27am)
There's a reason the job title is "manager" and not "leader".


The actual job is invoicing, data entry and shift allocation.
All they have to do it take the printouts from our ESO system, input the data into our spreadsheets and hit finalise.
Then if some one does not turn up for a shift they input that shift into our system called kronos and it sends a text to everyone with a code, if they want that shift they text the code back and are assigned the shift.
When a delivery is needed beyond the automated system we have in place they put that data into our system (also ESO) and the order is made, they then generate an invoice automatically.

Yeah i know nothing about management :mellow:
A well trained monkey could do middle management, and i have no idea how their pay is justified.
Your average cleaner needs more training and experience.
These managers make an average of ~$65,000 a year.
I DID the store manager job for two years before being promoted because i was over qualified, at no stage did i ever feel like i was better than anyone else at the store or more important.
The most important people at a bp site are night shift workers, if i don't show up my work is backlogged a day and it is caught up, if a night shift guy doesnt show up someone has to pull a 16 hour shift or we have to frantically call a bunch of people at 1 am.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Jun 25 2019 05:48pm
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I want low personal tax and higher corporate tax with less loopholes.
I want free healthcare and education and a livable wage for full time work.
I also want to end all non skilled immigration to my country and loosen our gun laws.


I okay with 2/3 of this unbolded. The second one just isn't possible because of the first law of thermodynamics.
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Jun 25 2019 09:20pm
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I okay with 2/3 of this unbolded. The second one just isn't possible because of the first law of thermodynamics.


I think its more than possible in wealthy nations, australia could nationalise our resources and do it with ease, our population is 24 million.
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I think its more than possible in wealthy nations, australia could nationalise our resources and do it with ease, our population is 24 million.


Its stupid because there are resultant effects. You raise the price of education and you lower its quality. Choices have consequences.
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