Logic is simple, majority of russians support pootins invasion and white-wash genocide, war crimes carried out by the orcs.

Do you want to let people in your country that should Ukraine fall support military operation in Baltics, Moldova and then ex-Soviet satellite countries? And when time comes they will return your tolerance, by gathering intelligence and targets in Eastern Germany to "liberate it"


Don't think Hungary is dumb enough to try and take any land or invade anyone, it got its teeth knocked in so hard during 2 world wars and then being Moscows dog for 40+ years (still is politically) that all it can do is bark from under the table so the master be it Moscow and its oil or EU doesn't forget about it . Poland is not carrying out any invasions either.

Being tolerant or intolerant and not holding gay parades and all other stuff =/= full on supporting invasions/genocide/war crimes.

Depends on what you mean by "support". Are Russians truly supporting Putin actively, or do they simply go along with it.

Humanitarian xD
Since when western people care about humanitarian?
Billions of people live in shit conditions around the globe, and would like to come to EU/USA, it would be humanitarian to let them in, but we dont do it. Because its too much risk.
We dont even really support poor people around the globe.
How much of our wealth we spend to help other nations develop?
Western people are selfish, sadly.

Let me explain you. Russians in Russian national tv watch plans that they would like to conquer area up to and including Germany.
This is a terrorism on national level, its not just individuals, its national. There are some Russians who resist it, and its great, but they are minority.
You let a Russian lady/man in, and she/he says you shit propaganda lies that he watched in his national tv, for example how Ukrainians bomb themselves and Russians try to save them.
This is war, and on the war you need to be effective, especially when your opponent obeys no rules.

You make it too complicated. My neighbour has got a son, he is 8y old. His grandma is Russian and visits him around 2x-3x per year with a tourist visa. How is banning her from visiting him would help anyone or stop anything?

The reality is Ukraine cannot win the war. We supply them enough to hold off but not to win. Some actionism isn't going to help. All we can hope for is Russia runs out of resources first and backs off like the US in Vietnam. That's our strategy, not some petty visa wars.

Hate to agree with this dude but he's right.

Banning regular people from entering will not do anything about the war. They would just be punishing ordinary Russians. Keeping families apart and things of that nature.

Never underestimate the foolishness of the "progressives". They're so butthurt by now they don't care if more sanctions will work or not.

First of all,
Im from Poland, eastern Europe, so I kind of know what eastern people do.
If you give them a tourist visa, most of them will work illegally that way or another.
Take earned money into Russia, and help Putin cause.
Im not sure how its possible, but there are many illegal workers in west Europe, and it seems its more or less tolerated.
Second of all, Ukrainian refugees went through hell.
In my city there is an airport, and they panic whenever plane flies.
Now imagine a Ukrainian woman and Russian woman, brainwashed by Putin TV, meet.
Third of all, a woman from Russia will spread Putin lies propaganda.
Fourth of all, we need to send a clear signal to Russian people, that Russian terrorism isn't tolerated here.
Putin is a dictator, but even a dictator needs to look at his people mood. If they will be pushing him, it might be one more reason to stop the war.
Fifth of all, how do you know the woman in question wasnt recruited to be Putin agent?

War always bring casaulties, the only thing we can do is to minimize them, often its about choosing less wrong potion.

Because of above points, Visa war helps to starve Putin regime.
Trade ban, Visa ban, it all helps to starve Putin of his money.

we should ban people who are from the warmongering nations who played a part in starting both world wars from traveling abroad. wouldnt want their violent tendencies to spread.

banning and/or sanctioning major players (politicians, oligarchs, billionaire businesspeople who look the other way, war merchants, etc.) is fine. banning grandma and grandpa from traveling to see their family solves nothing

yeah too bad the western leaders pursued policies which pumped the price of oil to kingdom come and enriched Putin more than he could have wished for.

banning grandma from seeing her grandson isn’t a solution. do you honestly think everyone in russia supports putin like some diety? even North Korea has defectors.

islam is destroying western countries, you poles are smart for not allowing this.