agreed

And yet that was the outcome of the whistleblower process- they determined it wasn't a valid complaint because it wasn't first-hand information within his duties or scope, it was a difference over policy rather than a crime and they went to congress, the DoJ and the media outside of the WPA process. The CIA guy would have known this wasn't a valid complaint. They were still legally bound by the whistleblower law to report it and couldn't dismiss it on the basis of a legal judgment at a preliminary stage. Its not up to them to make a value judgment. What would happen if the IG had said it isn't credible you clinton cuck, while he's already going around the IG's back? He'd only be making it worse with the appearance of a coverup that would fall the hammer on himself.

All the 'insider scoop' media outlets I've been reading like NYT/WaPo/etc and the testimony at the hill seem to have an undercurrent where everyone *assumes* or *hints* that the whistleblower has a personal bias that would be obvious once their identity is revealed. I can't say that bit for sure since I don't know it, but besides the obvious nature of the entire hit job to begin with, it seems telling that even the anti-Trump journalists are taking that as a given. I'd bet you a coke that when we find out who it is, it turns out to be another 'reality winner' scenario, except more likely a man in his 30s or 40s.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Sep 26 2019 11:22pm

When did they determine it wasn't a valid complaint?

when the DoJ/OLC reviewed it
some time between August and now.

I wonder what the odds are that this whistleblower turns out to be the same person who leaked the previous presidential phone call transcripts with Mexico / Canada or whatever they were, I don't remember, I know it was two of them.
Consider-
they're identified as being in a white house CIA role, acknowledged to have an anti-Trump / pro-"opposition" bias by the IG report, and they seemed quite intimately familiar with how the white house has quarantined transcripts by moving them to a different server that the IC isn't looped into, which the whistleblower report itself says includes other calls, not just ukraine. It stands to reason that after the first two transcripts leaked to the press, the white house tried to crack down on the leaks by cutting off who had access to them. And a CIA member who was previously able to leak the mexico/canada transcripts would have gotten cut off and be unable to directly access this ukrainian one, instead learning its details from fellow white house officials they're hobnobbing with. And then when they went ahead with this report, they seemed to have no issues finding channels to bring it to congress and the media at the same time as filing a whistleblower complaint.

I'd say there's a good chance its the same leaker. I mean, how many of them can you have in one white house?

also, if they were out of the loop on getting cut off from that server, it would be similar to the Natalie Mayflower Edwards scenario with the Suspicious Activity Reports- where she leaked because she thought Trump was covering up the SARs, when it really turned out Mueller had locked them out to quarantine his investigation. Someone in the CIA who wasn't privy to the white house's anti-leak security could have the same reaction as the whistleblower, calling it a coverup

This post was edited by Goomshill on Sep 27 2019 01:22am

Abuse of power, not criminality, key to Trump impeachment

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-legal/abuse-of-power-not-criminality-key-to-trump-impeachment-idUSKBN1WC10L





Here we go again... Now it seems the Dems intend to accuse Trump of anything they can think of, and start to call in witnesses for any and everything, hoping to find... something.
I'm beginning to wonder if just maybe, there are certain members of the House, that aren't hiding something. These "investigationS" seems to be continually violating the innocent until proven guilty, basis of our entire judicial system.

All these investigations with many "manufactured causes", are starting to sound more and more like some 3rd world country's govt. actions, rather than typical US govt. actions.

I'm also starting to wonder if all those Uranium One Deal questions, just might actually BE some of the roots of all this BS. There might even be more, like the Hillary/ Sanders crap that occurred in 2016.



I guess my point is, that there seems to be much more than just the typical two-party fighting going on here. I can almost SEE some of the various HOUSE members thinking: "We have to keep Trump so busy, that no one has the chance to look at what WE have done".

Seems the HOUSE is starting to have internal problems...
















This post was edited by Ghot on Sep 27 2019 06:27am

Pretty hilarious to hear a GOP member crying about 'minority rights'

Pretty hilarious when dems cry about minority rights.

They're starting to care again, though. We're nearing an election.

INB4 Whataboutism. Truth is truth.

hilarious that scaly of all people (the palest pastiest privileged lefty here who is also a member of the aristocracy) is pretending to care about minorities

all of the slurs hurled by scaly at beowulf and other minorities here. truly disturbing behavior by scaly the foreign voyeur.

This post was edited by excellence on Sep 27 2019 07:29am