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This post was edited by Jupe on Sep 26 2019 06:43pm

I mean at this point in Obama's presidency his approval dipped real low. Kinda telling that Trump's rating only goes above Obama's at his worst point.

So it seems clear at this point that a CIA agent assigned to the white house who was politically opposed to Trump, abused the whistleblower protections by reporting something obviously not a crime, not something in their line of duty and not by someone in the department, and then went to congress, the DoJ and media all on their own outside of the WPA process. We see that they each are reporting having it, and it leaked, all outside proper channels

This might be the most egregious yet of the shallow state of IC bureaucrats declaring war on Trump and trying to take him down. We've had reality winners and leakers and self interested department heads, but this person used a political disagreement with Trump to try to manufacture the political process of impeachment while violating the trust the IC is given to be looped into foreign diplomacy.

When this all shakes out, the damage to the executive branch could be monumental. Trump might kick the CIA out of the white house and make heads roll. The cooperation between executive and IC isnt a professional courtesy or bond of trust between coequal departments- they serve at his pleasure and only exist under his power. When they bite the hand that feeds, theres no telling how much it will destroy our national security

where are you getting this information from?

seems like a phone call with Ukraine President was put in the classified when it shouldn't have been

Reporting from the NYT spilled the beans on the 'whistleblower' being CIA. Other reports have said that most foreign leader's call transcripts are being routed to secure servers, not just Ukraine's. This is probably part of the white house's effort to tamp down on leaks- as pointed out at the intelligence hearing yesterday, this is the third leaked transcript of a presidential phone call to a foreign leader. It stands to reason they've upped security and didn't loop the IC into it, because the IC are the ones who were leaking it in the first place.

Also while the MSM only reported on the statements by the Ukrainian prosecutor put into place as Biden's puppet who claimed Burisma was never under investigation, the original prosecutor Shokin has revealed statements from court documents weeks/months ago that show him repeatedly swearing that he was investigating Burisma and explicitly told he was fired by Poroshenko because of investigating Burisma because it had Hunter Biden on the board and Joe Biden was forcing his firing. So the guy they replaced him with says it never happened, but the original guy says it was explicitly because of Hunter Biden, and has been claiming that since before this scandal went mainstream.

calls between foreign leaders should be classified

it doesn’t matter if Obama or Trump were talking about which golf glove is best with Trudeau

anyways it’s been made clear the whistleblower is a stooge acting on 3rd party information. another sad episode in American politics drawn up by the “smart” political party (D)

Yea, that's not where you jumped to conclusions though. You said he's "politically opposed to Trump" and he "abused whistle blower protections." C'mon man. If that was the case, the fucking IG wouldn't have sent the complaint to Macguire! He would have said, "yea this isn't credible you Clinton cuck and it's certainly not 'urgent' asshole." Alas, that's not what happened.

This is very serious and I've definitely taken the position that we need to investigate A LOT of people before we have a full picture (Coats, Atikson, GIULIANI!, the 7+ officials, Barr, members of the White House Counsel, etc.)