Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 17 2021 07:55am)

Trump is literally Hitler. So our obsession can't be pathetic. The history channel was obsessed with Hitler. Was that pathetic. Nope. Owned another Republican shill. Get rekt son.

Quote (IceMage @ Feb 17 2021 01:53pm)

I don't know how that's a good thing... it reveals his shamelessness and lack of remorse, and also his confidence that no evidence would sway Republican senators or his voters.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 17 2021 02:00pm)

What should he be ashamed of? He wasn't acquitted because he was really guilty. He was acquitted because it was a false charge. Which is precisely why the Biden DOJ is not going after him based on incitement. He stated flat out that people needed to get out and peacefully protest to fight for their rights. That's not incitement to an insurrection (or erection, if you're Schumer). It's standard political jabber for "Go cheer on politicians and policies you like, jeer and boo at that which you don't like."

Listen, I'll tell you what, if you honestly believe that Trump was guilty of a federal felony, forward the accusation and whatever evidence you have to the DOJ. If convicted, Trump could spend the rest of his life in a Federal Prison. He can't run for office if he's incarcerated, can he? But you don't have any evidence, nobody does.

Thus, shame isn't a factor. The fact that he stuck the lawyers with doing what lawyers do and simply went about enjoying his "retirement" is a "Well done" moment. The fact that Acosta ever reported it is more of a slap in the face of Dems, not a statement about Trump.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 17 2021 05:00pm)

What should he be ashamed of? He wasn't acquitted because he was really guilty. He was acquitted because it was a false charge. Which is precisely why the Biden DOJ is not going after him based on incitement. He stated flat out that people needed to get out and peacefully protest to fight for their rights. That's not incitement to an insurrection (or erection, if you're Schumer). It's standard political jabber for "Go cheer on politicians and policies you like, jeer and boo at that which you don't like."

Listen, I'll tell you what, if you honestly believe that Trump was guilty of a federal felony, forward the accusation and whatever evidence you have to the DOJ. If convicted, Trump could spend the rest of his life in a Federal Prison. He can't run for office if he's incarcerated, can he? But you don't have any evidence, nobody does.

Thus, shame isn't a factor. The fact that he stuck the lawyers with doing what lawyers do and simply went about enjoying his "retirement" is a "Well done" moment. The fact that Acosta ever reported it is more of a slap in the face of Dems, not a statement about Trump.

Quote (IceMage @ Feb 17 2021 02:58pm)

Trump wasn't explicit enough to get indicted by DOJ for his speech, but that's irrelevant. Impeachment is for political crimes as well.

Quote (IceMage @ 17 Feb 2021 14:58)

Trump wasn't explicit enough to get indicted by DOJ for his speech, but that's irrelevant. Impeachment is for political crimes as well.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 17 2021 06:12pm)

What's a "political crime"? Sounds very Kangaroo Court to me.

Quote (IceMage @ 17 Feb 2021 16:08)

There are offenses that presidents can commit which fall outside of criminal statutes. For instance, Trump could release America's most sensitive national security secrets legally, but if he did so, it would be worthy of impeachment and removal for harming the country and dereliction of duty.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 17 2021 06:27pm)

What is a "national security secret"? If you're referring to Classified information, Trump can NOT release it legally.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798

Brief: It's a crime and can be prosecuted. In general, impeachment convictions either run parallel with a criminal indictment, or is in regards to officials who subvert the law to their own ends. To date, the only Impeachment trials that led to convictions were of 8 federal judges, each of which were using the bench to subvert the law, rather than uphold it.

COULD the Senate have convicted, barring Trump from running in the future? Sure! Would it have been a subversion of the legal process that may well have gotten some of them Impeached? Possibly.