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#31
Feb 17 2021 09:40pm
Quote (Crunkt @ 17 Feb 2021 19:29)
Trumps Casino being Demolished:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK83Xcz8e9s


Democrats:

https://i.postimg.cc/jq47smMq/allt4.jpg


I'm mildly confused. He sold the Plaza Hotel in 2013. Why did the Meruelo group abandon it, allowing it 8 years to go to seed? Edit: Fact Check→False. The deal fell through. It was effectively an abandoned building, with the deed purchased by Carl Icahn in December 2018. It apparently took him this long to get his demolition plans and permits approved to complete the demolition. I withdraw the question.

Not really important, just curious. Neat way to gain funding though, charging $10 to allow people to watch from their vehicles. Gotta laugh that they now have to clear out a pile of rubble 8 stories high. :o

Quote (Thor123422 @ 17 Feb 2021 19:37)
What you're missing is that the president is head of the executive branch. He is the boss of the agencies that decide what information is classified. The president, by definition, cannot illegally share classified information because he is the final say on if a piece of information remains classified. There are times when he can't keep things classified, such as FOIA requests, but generally the president can declassify information at will. Additionally, by speaking or transmitting the information to somebody or everyone he gives them permission to have it, and so it cannot be an illegal transfer, again since it comes from the office that is effectively the arbiter of classification.


Ah, so it's not that he'd be leaking classified documents, merely that he "could have" mass declassified documents. Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.

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Feb 17 2021 10:25pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 17 2021 07:37pm)
What you're missing is that the president is head of the executive branch. He is the boss of the agencies that decide what information is classified. The president, by definition, cannot illegally share classified information because he is the final say on if a piece of information remains classified. There are times when he can't keep things classified, such as FOIA requests, but generally the president can declassify information at will. Additionally, by speaking or transmitting the information to somebody or everyone he gives them permission to have it, and so it cannot be an illegal transfer, again since it comes from the office that is effectively the arbiter of classification.

Trump actually did communicate sensitive information to foreign governments. Right after he took office he revealed a bunch of code words used between Israel and the UK to Putin. We actually lost a lot of communication with Israel, UK, and several other countries during his time in office because they couldn't trust him to keep a secret.


hillary can share illegal information and the fraud lefties wont make a peep about it
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Feb 17 2021 10:27pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Feb 17 2021 07:29pm)
Trumps Casino being Demolished:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK83Xcz8e9s


Democrats:

https://i.postimg.cc/jq47smMq/allt4.jpg


who owned the building? did trump sell it and make a fortune?................o dam?
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Feb 17 2021 10:33pm
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hillary can share illegal information and the fraud lefties wont make a peep about it


No matter how obsessed you are with Hillary she will never sleep with you.

Sorry to have to break it to you.
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Feb 17 2021 10:43pm
Quote (TiStuff @ 17 Feb 2021 20:27)
who owned the building? did trump sell it and make a fortune?................o dam?


The property is owned by Carl Icahn, who was the senior lender for the mortgage. The deal to sell back in 2013 failed because Icahn refused to allow the sale at the proposed price (both Trump Entertainment Resorts and Muerelo Group were good on the price).

No clue what Icahn plans to do with the building site right now. Guy's richer than Trump, valued at $16.7 billion. So realistically the answer is "Whatever he wants". I also suspect that the location value of the real estate itself is worth more than the $20M TER was going to sell it for, hence Icahn's refusal to allow the sale.

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Feb 17 2021 10:56pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 17 2021 08:33pm)
No matter how obsessed you are with Hillary she will never sleep with you.

Sorry to have to break it to you.


Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 17 2021 08:33pm)
No matter how obsessed you are with Hillary she will never sleep with you.

Sorry to have to break it to you.


not a argument, a move a fraud would make, that being said it was funny so at least it was something.
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Feb 17 2021 11:00pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 17 2021 08:43pm)
The property is owned by Carl Icahn, who was the senior lender for the mortgage. The deal to sell back in 2013 failed because Icahn refused to allow the sale at the proposed price (both Trump Entertainment Resorts and Muerelo Group were good on the price).

No clue what Icahn plans to do with the building site right now. Guy's richer than Trump, valued at $16.7 billion. So realistically the answer is "Whatever he wants". I also suspect that the location value of the real estate itself is worth more than the $20M TER was going to sell it for, hence Icahn's refusal to allow the sale.


so the dude brought up the topic is whacking off because some one else's building got demoed. His TDS is stimulated only because the name of the building? that would make the poll title seem spot on?
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Feb 17 2021 11:05pm
Quote (TiStuff @ 17 Feb 2021 21:00)
so the dude brought up the topic is whacking off because some one else's building got demoed. His TDS is stimulated only because the name of the building? that would make the poll title seem spot on?


The true irony is that Icahn is friends with Trump, served briefly as an economic adviser, is one of the people still willing to openly do business with Trump, is the current owner of Trump Entertainment Resorts (a publicly traded company), and will likely build something that'll end up far more successful than Trump Plaza ever was.

So Icahn is getting people to cheer and lick his balls for "destroying a trump building" that Trump himself sued to have his name removed over for violating the licensing requiring it not fall out of condition while keeping his name, only so Icahn, a Trump ally, can then utilize the property properly. It's good times.

The guy is a legitimate philanthropist though. You never know, he could very well set up some kind of medical center or educational facility. It's hard to predict what he'll do. I just know I wouldn't want to owe him money. He's a shark and a half.

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Feb 18 2021 07:42am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 17 2021 07:27pm)
What is a "national security secret"? If you're referring to Classified information, Trump can NOT release it legally.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798

Brief: It's a crime and can be prosecuted. In general, impeachment convictions either run parallel with a criminal indictment, or is in regards to officials who subvert the law to their own ends. To date, the only Impeachment trials that led to convictions were of 8 federal judges, each of which were using the bench to subvert the law, rather than uphold it.

COULD the Senate have convicted, barring Trump from running in the future? Sure! Would it have been a subversion of the legal process that may well have gotten some of them Impeached? Possibly.


You can't figure out what national security secret means? Really?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-legal-authority-declassify-intelligence/story?id=47436559

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As president, Trump has the legal power to declassify information. He also has the authority to share information with whomever he wants, including foreign adversaries.

At the White House today, Trump's national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, defended Trump's disclosure and said it "is wholly appropriate for the president to share whatever information he thinks is necessary to advance the security of the American people."

Trump is protected under an executive order that was signed by Barack Obama in 2009 establishing a uniform system for "classifying, safeguarding and declassifying national security information."

The order allows the president to determine the system of designating classified information, and he is the ultimate authority over U.S. intelligence agencies, which gather and classify the information.

The Supreme Court confirmed as much in its 1988 ruling in Department of Navy v. Egan.

"[The president's] authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security … flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the president and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant," the court said.


The president can declassify whatever he wants, even if it tremendously harms our national security.

Have you followed the Trump presidency at all? DOJ maintains that the president cannot be indicted while in office... so impeachment and removal is the remedy for certain violations of criminal statutes, and other high crimes and misdemeanors that don't violate the law.
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#40
Feb 18 2021 07:45am
Quote (Crunkt @ 18 Feb 2021 04:29)
Trumps Casino being Demolished:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK83Xcz8e9s


Democrats:

https://i.postimg.cc/jq47smMq/allt4.jpg


very nicely controlled one
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