Kim wins. His objective was always to keep his nukes and embarrass the United States. Donald is a weak, ineffectual moron.

I'm figuring that the proximate cause was that the US figured Kim would cancel on them, and wanted to do it first.
What can I say I'm dirty commie dove by default and pragmatist only when I get the benefit of hindsight.

This post was edited by Goomshill on May 24 2018 10:31am

Because of Trump allowing joint military exercises with the South Koreans less than a week before the summit was to occur...

"
South Korean President Moon Jae-in has convened an emergency meeting, including his head of secret services and his minister of reunification, the Yonhap news agency said. South Korea "seeks to understand what President Trump's intentions are and what they mean," said presidential spokesman Kim Eui-kyeom.
"

It's okay, all my dirty commie friends support the most right-wing president since Reagan too. 4d chess.



I don't think that's the main cause... from the reporting I've heard the US never pretended the exercises would be cancelled, and North Korea wasn't pushing hard for it.

1 week ago:

Donald Trump's threat to Kim Jong-un: " make a deal or suffer same fate as Gaddafi "

heh, such a fucking clown.

What's worse are the death threats, nominating Bolton as National Security Advisor and nominating a Japanese-American admiral as the Ambassador to South Korea. He literally offended all parties involved. The Trump administration fumbled this so hard.

the issue is you're presupposing that isolation isn't Kim's perpetual goal, and that he cares about horrid conditions.

The Kim regime made isolation the way of life, and they are responsible for the horrid conditions. They use them as a tool keep the people down.

It's hard to believe that all the Kims are after is a bit of stuff for propaganda films, but that's the truth. The don't care much how the world sees them or talks about them, because their people have no access to the internet and get told lies about how the world sees them. Every single things about NK needs to be run through the following filter: "The kims wont care if they die as long as every NK citizen dies before them."

to be frank, Kim wouldnt mind if half the population died off. why? they systematically test and check people for loyalty to the regime, and give food in a hierarchy to those who are loyal. everyone who dies off is less loyal, objectively. when people die he maintains control.

Japan and Korea and bffs now, no tension between the two. Haven't you heard? Koreans watch anime and read mangas and are developing their own webtoon style of comics. Meanwhile Korea is truly sending their best all across Asia and Japan. And by best I mean their #1 export, K-pop bands.




This post was edited by Helloween7 on May 24 2018 11:31am

what i find funny in all of this is people want to push Israeli's and Palestinians into a room together until they can "work it out", but put up a Japanese American as ambassador to SK and people lose their minds. its funny how openly accepted Asian internal racism is. i guess it makes sense given the atrocities over the years but still. they've had rather cooled off relationship for decades.