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Jun 24 2022 08:10pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 24 2022 07:07pm)
No, it is from your perspective from my perspective the chicago and jacksonville drill rap scenes are going to be lit.


You are tap-dancing around the issue.
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Jun 24 2022 08:28pm
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which is a ridiculous misrepresentation of what my actual stance


This is fucking BEYOND rich fucking coming from you. No, I don't fucking care to fucking debate it either. Look in the fucking mirror.
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Jun 24 2022 08:34pm
Quote (thundercock @ 25 Jun 2022 03:56)
Of course it's the government's business. If it wasn't, why does your country and every other country regulate WHEN you can have an abortion? I don't think you have a winning argument there.


not with authoritarians and religious bigots of course, but certainly with people who value freedom, bodily autonomy, women's rights, and the government staying out of your private business.

i think you could make a decent argument that it can reasonably become the government's business once the fetus is viable (a quick reminder that just 8% of abortions are performed week 13 and later, just about 1% week 20 or later - earliest viability is around week 23, which accounts for less than half a percent of all abortions) - at least in a modern society that can afford to and has the political will to ensure that baby doesn't suffer from hunger and poverty - so that definitely doesn't include the US.

so yeah, fundamentally none of your or the government's business - especially a government that doesn't give a flying fuck about actual children.
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Jun 24 2022 08:34pm
Quote (IceMage @ Jun 24 2022 05:10pm)
I don't follow politics that closely anymore so I don't know what journalist you're talking about. I know some of Trump's coup plotters are being investigated, and they should be. In a world where Trump's attempted coup doesn't result in political consequences, if the DOJ can enact legal ones, I'm all for it.


Before the election, Project Veritas received a copy of Ashley Biden's journal from someone who had rented a property she left it at. Rather than post it to the internet, they first verified its authenticity by checking with Ashley Biden, then decided not to publish it, both figuring it wasn't newsworthy and that it might actually help Biden by backfiring and stirring up sympathy. But we did learn it was real. After the election, Merrick Garland ordered an FBI raid of Project Veritas where they broke into the journalists home in the middle of the night with battering rams and automatic weapons, and seized all their electronic devices. The FBI tipped off the New York Times, who PV were in a lawsuit against. The FBI then immediately- same night- leaked all the emails and confidential sources to the NYT, including attorney-client communications in their lawsuit against the NYT. There was no accusation of a real crime. They initially claimed it was 'receiving stolen property', like a journalist receiving a leak is a criminal that needs to be raided at the risk of being shot

Thats just the tip of Merrick Garlands iceberg. He raided economist Peter Navarro's home. He raided another Trump lawyer last week. Its not a joke when I'm predicting he'll raid the home of Clarence and Ginni Thomas, I give it 20%+ odds
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Jun 24 2022 08:39pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jun 25 2022 12:09pm)
Why aren't you happy that more black boys and girls are going to have a chance at life, to grow up to pursue their dreams and be happy, laugh, cry, live.

My thing with abortion proponents is like, do some introspection. You today are alive, you can enjoy the sun, a good meal, sex, fill in the blank. If life is that miserable for you, you can commit suicide, it's your choice. You don't though, because life is good and you have a inherent drive and want to live. But yet you want to deny that young life the same experience for convenience purposes? It's inhumane and absolutely selfish.


I already said i am fine with this decision, but its not going to change much, there will be a huge crime wave, a lot more woman in prison or dead from botches and probably mass migration to blue states.
If you guys want to legalise slavery and torture that's your call, the thrill of democracy.
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Jun 24 2022 08:41pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 24 2022 07:39pm)
I already said i am fine with this decision, but its not going to change much, there will be a huge crime wave, a lot more woman in prison or dead from botches and probably mass migration to blue states.
If you guys want to legalise slavery and torture that's your call, the thrill of democracy.


Banning abortion is not on par with legalizing slavery or torture.

That said I believe abortion should remain legal. It's pointless and potentially harmful to force women to give birth to a child that they do not want.
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Jun 24 2022 08:43pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Jun 25 2022 12:41pm)
Banning abortion is not on par with legalizing slavery or torture.

That said I believe abortion should remain legal. It's pointless and potentially harmful to force women to give birth to a child that they do not want.


Forcing someone to spend 9 months growing a child is slavery, forcing them to give birth is torture, or are you woman finally willing to concede that giving birth is not as bad as having the man flu?
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Jun 24 2022 08:45pm
Quote (Santara @ 25 Jun 2022 04:28)
This is fucking BEYOND rich fucking coming from you. No, I don't fucking care to fucking debate it either. Look in the fucking mirror.


stfu, kid. don't you have some obedient women to terrorise, lecturing them about what they can and can't do with their bodies? why don't you explain to your wife and daughter why it's right for the government to force them to have a rapist's baby, no matter if they want it or not? or have you already brainwashed them with your simplistic takes on the superior value of a fetus over their destination as vessels for a new generation of authoritarian, woman-hating shills?
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Jun 24 2022 08:45pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 24 2022 07:43pm)
Forcing someone to spend 9 months growing a child is slavery, forcing them to give birth is torture, or are you woman finally willing to concede that giving birth is not as bad as having the man flu?


What's the man flu?

Anyway, no, it's not slavery nor is it torture. You are being theatrical. Anyway, I already said that abortion should remain legal.
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Jun 24 2022 08:45pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 24 2022 10:34pm)
Before the election, Project Veritas received a copy of Ashley Biden's journal from someone who had rented a property she left it at. Rather than post it to the internet, they first verified its authenticity by checking with Ashley Biden, then decided not to publish it, both figuring it wasn't newsworthy and that it might actually help Biden by backfiring and stirring up sympathy. But we did learn it was real. After the election, Merrick Garland ordered an FBI raid of Project Veritas where they broke into the journalists home in the middle of the night with battering rams and automatic weapons, and seized all their electronic devices. The FBI tipped off the New York Times, who PV were in a lawsuit against. The FBI then immediately- same night- leaked all the emails and confidential sources to the NYT, including attorney-client communications in their lawsuit against the NYT. There was no accusation of a real crime. They initially claimed it was 'receiving stolen property', like a journalist receiving a leak is a criminal that needs to be raided at the risk of being shot

Thats just the tip of Merrick Garlands iceberg. He raided economist Peter Navarro's home. He raided another Trump lawyer last week. Its not a joke when I'm predicting he'll raid the home of Clarence and Ginni Thomas, I give it 20%+ odds


I wish William Barr had juevos half that big.

The Democrats literally aren't afraid to set the world on fire. Just because they want to.

Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 24 2022 10:43pm)
Forcing someone to spend 9 months growing a child is slavery, forcing them to give birth is torture, or are you woman finally willing to concede that giving birth is not as bad as having the man flu?


You know her toes were curling while her ankles were up behind her ears though.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Jun 24 2022 08:46pm
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