lmfao

you claimed russia hacking the election was a fact based on what you thought and continue to deny the election despite the facts based all on your emotions

in any event

https://news.yahoo.com/full-whistleblower-complaint-ukraine-trump-125238707.html
here's another good tid-bit



whistleblower is using the famous 'unnamed sources' - this person isn't even a direct source of the conversation

If anything, this might be more of a 'pulling the arrow out' scenario, where the real scandal wouldn't be Joe Biden firing the prosecutor, but Joe Biden getting his fuckup son a possibly-no-show job pilfering from Ukraine.
Lets be real, given Hunter Biden's history, if his name wasn't "Biden", nobody would let him run a McDonald's let alone an energy exploration company.

I think one potential development is if anyone can determine whether Hunter Biden actually had any duties at all. If this turns out to be a full blown no-show job, that alone would be damning. What was he supposed to be providing to the company to be worth millions of dollars if it wasn't access as bogie says, or just a kickback to their US political patron?

yeah Hunter's position seems incredibly suspect. he's a trust fund baby military flunkout. how he even got involved in all of this for ANYTHING other than access is silly to even think about.

the tl'dr of a lot of this is "what happened was legal, but unethical". on trumps part, on bidens part, etc. which makes the central question if we should impeach a president on unethical behavior, and whether that behavior is happening domestically might be a factor.

Focusing on run of the mill corruption(friends and family of powerful people being consultants and board members) is a side issue. The real issue is Trump pressuring a foreign leader to dig up dirt on a political opponent.

I think your position has changed in the past couple days.

I'm going to reply to your earlier post later.

I think the part that the DEMs are trying to sweep under the carpet....and the part that most here seem to be missing, is that...


1. No quid pro quo
2. Trump asked for information on Biden's actions back when he was VP, not because he's a candidate,
3. Trump wants that missing server, with... Hillary's emails.
4. He is still working to bring Hillary and her ilk, to justice.


So, ofc the DEMs are up in arms, because of the consequent unraveling that will occur if either of these two are brought to justice.



None of this changes the facts that Trump didn't do what he's being accused of. Deja vu.

Right now one of the HOUSE committees is holding a hearing and using the usual, don't let the person answer, method of trying to "spin" a totally legal action by Trump, into to something impeachable.




The DEMs pulling this is pretty much status quo, but the PaRDians who are aiding and abetting this, are the scary ones.

Hillary lost, get over it.

No shit. Anything to detract from the fact their dude hasn't been coming to work lol.

It's the entire issue.

Biden did it to protect his son, the Democrats did this to try and collect damaging dirt on Trump. I mean, the Democratic party actually paid Russian "sources" to provide them knowingly false information on Trump.

Whether or not these things "should" be allowed is beside the point, although some of them probably shouldn't. Trump telling a foreign leader to look into corruption allegations that are almost certainly true is not impeachable behavior.

The die has been cast with the investigation. Let the chips fall where they may and we'll see what the results are.