Whataboutism

abortion bans inherently are a minority support issue in almost all nationwide districts, what's an extra 2%?

The point is that there's a large contingent of normies/moderates/swing voters who might prefer abortion being legal at least for the first weeks of pregnancy, but who don't care too much about the issue and would go along with a reasonable
version of a ban. These voters will imho be turned against the pro-life position when there's reports about underage rape victims forced to carry stepdaddy's child to term, or women forced to continue unviable pregnancies until they almost die. Imho, 70 or 80% of the "outrage potential" comes from these 0.1-0.5% of cases, and considering the precarious public support for the pro-life position, it seems politically unwise to not carve out exceptions for them to defuse the issue.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 12 2022 09:28am

like i told you yesterday they wont, abortion whether full or with exceptions wont move the meter much if at all. the reality is you're an hour drive in almost all states from a abortion clinic even if ur in a banned state.

That's not true.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/24/abortion-laws-by-state-map-clinics

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 12 2022 09:40am

we're talking about changing votes. every place that is dark orange for the most part is a GOP stronghold. the battle ground locations are yellow/white in most places. Georgia to a lesser extend and Florida to the greater extent being outliers.

100 miles being categorized as a problematic abortion desert seems hyperbolic and out of line with what voters will think to me. michigan, georgia, wisconsin, and georgia may be the only places in the US this moves the needle, but IMO desantis has moved FL for the GOP whether or not he runs, WI was going blue regardless, MI same, Georgia close but GOP win imo.

this may shift a few seats in 2022 but i doubt it, and by 2024 it will be an ineffectual DNC rallying cry imo. plan b stocks going to moon

I agree that it will be an ineffectual rallying cry - if and only if the implementation isn't too draconian.

I think the largest impact this issue is gonna have is on the state level, governor's races in particular. In places like WI or PA, electing a Democratic governor is the only thing standing between the state and an abortion ban, while partisanship is less of a factor in gubernatorial than federal races.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 12 2022 09:54am

abortion is already kind of banned, as we had an 1800s standing law and the state senate is red.

but here's the thing, these BAD cases that deserve exceptions, failed pregnancy, bad complications, pre-birth defects, risk to mother, etc. If u have them u get in a car and drive to get the abortion, 50 miles, 200 miles, Alaska to Florida if u have to. these are not going to cost actual lives, voters know it.

its been 50 years.

After reading my state's law's I'd question if Plan B is legal here.