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Nov 10 2019 04:03pm
Quote (Ghot @ Nov 11 2019 08:03am)
YOU might want to quit looking for comparisons that are strictly coincidental, even where they MIGHT be similar. ^^


Ok boomer.
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Ok boomer.




Pfft... get good. :/












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I think there's a 3rd option. Schiff KNOWS that the answer will implicate Schiff in meeting with and coaching the whistleblower.



/e ...or worse. That this whole impeachment inquiry is another fabricated pile of BS.


makes sense. the evil dems "fabricated" the transcript that documents trump pressuring ukraine for dirt on biden. they also "fabricated" trump asking for foreign help on national tv. then those bastards "fabricated" mick mulvaney admitting to quid pro quos, and finally they "fabricated" the trump toady and mega donor gordon sondland finally admitting what emperor bonespur already publicly confessed, albeit accidentally...

you guys are so desperate to distract from your cult leader's crimes, you're making anti-vaxxers and flat-earthers look smart by comparison...

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makes sense. the evil dems "fabricated" the transcript that documents trump pressuring ukraine for dirt on biden. they also "fabricated" trump asking for foreign help on national tv. then those bastards "fabricated" mick mulvaney admitting to quid pro quos, and finally they "fabricated" the trump toady and mega donor gordon sondland finally admitting what emperor bonespur already publicly confessed, albeit accidentally...

you guys are so desperate to distract from your cult leader's crimes, you're making anti-vaxxers and flat-earthers look smart by comparison...

you are fabricating the details of the transcript... among other things
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you are fabricating the details of the transcript... among other things


which 'detail' did i 'fabricate' specifically? humour me...
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which 'detail' did i 'fabricate' specifically? humour me...

ok, let's start with "the transcript that documents trump pressuring ukraine for dirt on biden." these are not the only fabrications, but it's your opener.

1. what "pressure"?
2. when did he ask for "dirt" or for anyone to fabricate facts?

here you go.
https://www.scribd.com/document/427409665/Ukraine-Call-Transcript

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ok, let's start with "the transcript that documents trump pressuring ukraine for dirt on biden." these are not the only fabrications, but it's your opener.

1. what "pressure"?
2. when did he ask for "dirt" or for anyone to fabricate facts?

here you go.
https://www.scribd.com/document/427409665/Ukraine-Call-Transcript


wait, so you linked it but you didn't even read it?!
it's literally right there, asking for 'favours' in relation to the crowdstrike conspiracy and biden's son - insisting they meet with his PRIVATE attorney giuliani (so much for the idiotic 'he was just concerned with corruption in ukraine in general' excuse) - how could it be any clearer?
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wait, so you linked it but you didn't even read it?!
it's literally right there, asking for 'favours' in relation to the crowdstrike conspiracy and biden's son - insisting they meet with his PRIVATE attorney giuliani (so much for the idiotic 'he was just concerned with corruption in ukraine in general' excuse) - how could it be any clearer?



Maybe IF he had mentioned the 400 million, which he didn't.
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wait, so you linked it but you didn't even read it?!
it's literally right there, asking for 'favours' in relation to the crowdstrike conspiracy and biden's son - insisting they meet with his PRIVATE attorney giuliani (so much for the idiotic 'he was just concerned with corruption in ukraine in general' excuse) - how could it be any clearer?

it's clearer when you don't lump 5 pages into 1 run-on topic.

you're putting way too much emphasis on the use of "favour".
zelenskyy just spent 2 paragraphs praising trump for everything his administration has already done for Ukraine.

that "favour" was specifically related to "the server".
trump states the word is that someone wealthy in Ukraine has it.
trump then says he thinks it's related to the mess of the mueller report.
zelenskyy agree's it's an issue and states that all investigations will be done "openly and candidly".

biden was an after thought due to the video surfacing about him bragging about firing a prosecutor that was looking into burisma holdings.
biden was also separated from all other topics in the transcript and spoken about as a final word from trump.



biden is just dumb, and brought himself into this conversation only because the prosecutor he claims to fire comes from Ukraine.
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Nov 10 2019 08:25pm
Quote (Ghot @ 11 Nov 2019 02:12)
Maybe IF he had mentioned the 400 million, which he didn't.


we know from mulvaney, sondland, several other officials, and common sense that those 400 million in military aid were very much implied. they were specifically requested by the administration to be withheld prior to the call.
he doesn't have to explicitly say that (although i wouldn't be surprised if he actually did - trump should release the actual recording and proper transcript of his 'perfect call') in order for it to be understood by both parties.

also, there doesn't even have to be a quid pro quo - just the asking of foreign governments to specifically investigate his political opponent is a violation of federal election law.
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