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Nov 2 2019 01:48pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 2 2019 02:29pm)
I do care about being right but my assessment of 'rightness' coming from people that i disagree with and hold a perpetually biased view means nothing. Nothing i said in the last few pages is untrue or 'monumentally stupid' just because the usual peanut gallery says so doesn't mean it's true.


We know for a fact that Trump paid off stormy daniels and that he has profited from his position as president. These things are so well proven at this point that denying them shows you are either monumentally uninformed or monumentally dishonest.

And you know it, so when you accidentally claim they didn't because you reflexively defend trump you launch into defense mode to save your own ego

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We know for a fact that Trump paid off stormy daniels and that he has profited from his position as president. These things are so well proven at this point that denying them shows you are either monumentally uninformed or monumentally dishonest.

And you know it, so when you accidentally claim they didn't because you reflexively defend trump you launch into defense mode to save your own ego


You don't know what words like profit mean. His net worth has decreased during the presidency so to say he profited is the opposite of reality.Just because he may have profited in a region or city doesn't mean on the aggregate he's doing better. Even if we discount his worth to a more realistic value that doesn't change the fact that he hasn't been making money.

As far paying Stormy off that's why i said 'some' are bullshit, what's not bullshit is the perpetual negative coverage regardless of truth or substantiation. You parroting a lie that he 'profited' is a fine example of either being dishonest or uninformed.
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Nov 2 2019 02:13pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 3 2019 05:35am)
For 3 years you parroted half truths as facts about russiagate. Ironic you accuse someone of uncritically accepting or dismissing facts.

Fact is we're about to witness another political theatrical display. 'He paid Stormy off', 'he raped 17 women', 'he is a Russian asset', 'he is a racist', 'he is profiting from being a president'. Shit slinging never ends and this is the new chapter of the saga.

You don't choose to televise something because you want to get to the truth. You chose to televise it because you want to sway public opinion. Pretty much the reason why all those other things were brought up even if most or all proved to be bs.


Half of these are facts..
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Nov 2 2019 02:14pm
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You don't know what words like profit mean. His net worth has decreased during the presidency so to say he profited is the opposite of reality.Just because he may have profited in a region or city doesn't mean on the aggregate he's doing better. Even if we discount his worth to a more realistic value that doesn't change the fact that he hasn't been making money.

As far paying Stormy off that's why i said 'some' are bullshit, what's not bullshit is the perpetual negative coverage regardless of truth or substantiation. You parroting a lie that he 'profited' is a fine example of either being dishonest or uninformed.


source?
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Nov 2 2019 02:18pm
Quote (fender @ Nov 2 2019 04:14pm)
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Today we estimate it to be $3.1 billion, a drop of $1.4 billion.


This is after accounting to what some think he's actually worth.

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That’s led to big losses in key areas. Trump National Doral, the president’s largest golf property, has historically drawn much of its clientele from parts of the country where Trump is unpopular. The resort has seen a steep drop in business since Trump went into politics. The Trump Organization’s traditional wheelhouse of luxury rental residential real estate is suffering too, since much of it sits in blue cities like New York and Chicago. And the president’s brand licensing businesses have basically flatlined. A handful of licensees have struck the Trump name from their properties. Meanwhile companies that paid to put the Trump brand on their products, including Macy’s and Serta, fled during Trump’s campaign. No one has stepped in to fill the void, dropping the value of that business close to zero.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2019/08/14/no-trump-is-not-losing-3-to-5-billion-from-presidency/#6c4a8d2e4a2d

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Nov 2 2019 02:19pm
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You don't know what words like profit mean. His net worth has decreased during the presidency so to say he profited is the opposite of reality.Just because he may have profited in a region or city doesn't mean on the aggregate he's doing better. Even if we discount his worth to a more realistic value that doesn't change the fact that he hasn't been making money.

As far paying Stormy off that's why i said 'some' are bullshit, what's not bullshit is the perpetual negative coverage regardless of truth or substantiation. You parroting a lie that he 'profited' is a fine example of either being dishonest or uninformed.


"His net worth has decreased" and "he has profited from his presidency" are not mutually exclusive propositions. It's funny that you talk about economics but don't understand something simple like this.

You are confusing "profited DURING this presidency" with "profited FROM his presidency". He has not done the former, but has undeniably done the latter.

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"His net worth has decreased" and "he has profited from his presidency" are not mutually exclusive propositions. It's funny that you talk about economics but don't understand something simple like this.


Profit is related to net worth dumbass. Your revenue can increase by 10x but if that doesn't translate to a next profit increase then it means nothing. Like i said, he probably made money on some of his enterprises, that doesn't mean that he overall made money on the aggregate.

Literally posted sourced numbers and you're still dumb enough to claim he's making money from being a president. Either extremely low iq or TDS.

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But only a sliver of that has to do with politics. Much of the decline is due to deeper reporting, which revealed, for example, that Trump had been lying about the size of his penthouse. Another big chunk is due to market forces.

i guess there's only one way to know for sure: hold him to his promises, demand he releases his taxes. it's undeniable that he leveraged the office to personally profit from it. how many tens of millions did he bill the taxpayer for golfing and meetings at his own resorts? and that's just one aspect, remember the zte crookery that got ivanka's brands approved in china? that's not even in there...
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Nov 2 2019 02:28pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 2 2019 03:23pm)
Profit is related to net worth dumbass. Your revenue can increase by 10x but if that doesn't translate to a next profit increase then it means nothing. Like i said, he probably made money on some of his enterprises, that doesn't mean that he overall made money on the aggregate.

Literally posted sourced numbers and you're still dumb enough to claim he's making money from being a president. Either extremely low iq or TDS.


This is probably the best example of you not knowing basic economics and making a fool of yourself by trying to speak with authority.

He has made a profit from his position as presidency means that he has used his position to generate a profit for his businesses, and since he has made a profit from hosting numerous foreign diplomats that he otherwise wouldn't have this is undeniably true.

He has, however, lost profit in other areas of his businesses, meaning his net worth overall has decreased.


So Trump's net worth has decreased while he has been president even while he has used his position as president to generate a profit for his businesses. It just happens that the profit he generated from his businesses has been less than the amount he has lost during the same time period.

So, as is news to literally nobody except you, the propositions that he has made a profit from his position as president and has lost net worth during his presidency are both true simultaneously.



However me posting this doesn't matter as you've been in defense mode from the beginning and so you won't be willing to read for Content no matter what I post

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Nov 2 2019 02:38pm
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This is probably the best example of you not knowing basic economics and making a fool of yourself by trying to speak with authority.

He has made a profit from his position as presidency means that he has used his position to generate a profit for his businesses, and since he has made a profit from hosting numerous foreign diplomats that he otherwise wouldn't have this is undeniably true.

He has, however, lost profit in other areas of his businesses, meaning his net worth overall has decreased.


So Trump's net worth has decreased while he has been president even while he has used his position as president to generate a profit for his businesses. It just happens that the profit he generated from his businesses has been less than the amount he has lost during the same time period.

So, as is news to literally nobody except you, the propositions that he has made a profit from his position as president and has lost net worth during his presidency are both true simultaneously.



However me posting this doesn't matter as you've been in defense mode from the beginning and so you won't be willing to read for Content no matter what I post


Profit is the bottom the line. Trump's bottom line has decreased substantially as president. To claim his bottom line increased is literally the opposite of reality. It doesn't matter that he got someone to go to his hotel or resorts that's revenue, what matters is the net.

If i own 3 stores and the bottom line dropped by 50% it's irrelevant that i made a money this one week or on this one item. What matters is the overall, that's how literally everything is measured in the business world.

If the bottom line is negative it's not called profit, it's called a loss. Thor showcasing how garbage southern states education is once again.
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