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Nov 2 2019 11:27am
lol

So the closed door meetings were just to get their ducks in a row on how to weaponize this. Now onto phase two, make a public spectacle.

Just like russiagate, even if you got nothing if you repeat it enough times and make theater out of it lemmings will follow and believe it.

I honestly don't even think the objective here is to get him impeached. I think the real objective here is to continue the muckraking strategy, especially before 2020 elections.


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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrats in the U.S. Congress took a major step toward impeaching President Donald Trump this week when they agreed on the rules for publicly televised hearings after weeks of testimony behind closed doors. But it is also a step onto more politically perilous terrain for a party seeking to persuade Americans that their cause to remove Republican Trump, who they accuse of abusing his power, is just.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-televised-analy/democrats-decision-to-televise-trump-impeachment-hearings-could-prove-politically-perilous-idUSKBN1XB50K

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lol

So the closed door meetings were just to get their ducks in a row on how to weaponize this. Now onto phase two, make a public spectacle.

Just like russiagate, even if you got nothing if you repeat it enough times and make theater out of it lemmings will follow and believe it.

I honestly don't even think the objective here is to get him impeached. I think the real objective here is to continue the muckraking strategy, especially before 2020 elections.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-televised-analy/democrats-decision-to-televise-trump-impeachment-hearings-could-prove-politically-perilous-idUSKBN1XB50K


Uh... yeah? Obviously the closed depositions were a preliminary step before public hearings. That's usually how this stuff works.

More and more Trump defenders are shifting their argument to "the quid pro quo was there, but it's not impeachable". Some are pretending the quid pro quo was justified, others are saying it's bad but not worthy of removal a year out from an election.

Have you even followed the facts on this issue? Or is it just your usual reverse TDS where you uncritically dismiss any Trump criticism?

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https://twitter.com/normative/status/1189965528007356422

The second point is strongest. The "too close to an election" argument against impeachment/removal is severely weakened if the abuse of power was made to corruptly influence the 2020 election.


Reposting cause it's an important point.

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Uh... yeah? Obviously the closed depositions were a preliminary step before public hearings. That's usually how this stuff works.

More and more Trump defenders are shifting their argument to "the quid pro quo was there, but it's not impeachable". Some are pretending the quid pro quo was justified, others are saying it's bad but not worthy of removal a year out from an election.

Have you even followed the facts on this issue? Or is it just your usual reverse TDS where you uncritically dismiss any Trump criticism?

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Reposting cause it's an important point.


For 3 years you parroted half truths as facts about russiagate. Ironic you accuse someone of uncritically accepting or dismissing facts.

Fact is we're about to witness another political theatrical display. 'He paid Stormy off', 'he raped 17 women', 'he is a Russian asset', 'he is a racist', 'he is profiting from being a president'. Shit slinging never ends and this is the new chapter of the saga.

You don't choose to televise something because you want to get to the truth. You chose to televise it because you want to sway public opinion. Pretty much the reason why all those other things were brought up even if most or all proved to be bs.

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For 3 years you parroted half truths as facts about russiagate. Ironic you accuse someone of uncritically accepting or dismissing facts.

Fact is we're about to witness another political theatrical display. 'He paid Stormy off', 'he raped 17 women', 'he is a Russian asset', 'he is a racist', 'he is profiting from being a president'. Shit slinging never ends and this is the new chapter of the saga.

You don't choose to televise something because you want to get to the truth. You chose to televise it because you want to sway public opinion. Pretty much the reason why all those other things were brought up even if most or all proved to be bs.


So you're acknowledging that, yet again, you're engaging in reverse TDS by uncritically dismissing any criticism of the dear leader.

Pretty amazing. I'm embarrassed for you. Any credibility you had on this forum has vanished.
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Nov 2 2019 12:46pm
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So you're acknowledging that, yet again, you're engaging in reverse TDS by uncritically dismissing any criticism of the dear leader.

Pretty amazing. I'm embarrassed for you. Any credibility you had on this forum has vanished.


He never had any to begin with

I like how 2 of the 5 things he listed undeniably happened lol

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Nov 2 2019 12:47pm
The garbage people trying to pretend someone else has no credibility is rich
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The garbage people trying to pretend someone else has no credibility is rich



Cam still angry that somebody would accurately summarize his position
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Nov 2 2019 12:50pm
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He never had any to begin with


Trump has revealed the true nature of people, and Thor knew it all along.

Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 2 2019 02:47pm)
The garbage people trying to pretend someone else has no credibility is rich


Mises and Hayek wouldn't have been Trump sympathetic.
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Nov 2 2019 12:54pm
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Trump has revealed the true nature of people, and Thor knew it all along.

Mises and Hayek wouldn't have been Trump sympathetic.


One of my talents is reading people. Im insanely good at it. Its not uncommon to have the "it sounded mean but I reflected on it and you were super right about why I was doing what I was doing and I should change"

However, it comes at the cost of having absolutely no talent at manipulating people. I cant get people to buy from me, be my friend, or believe most things I say. Still, I'm super introverted so thats fine.

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Trump has revealed the true nature of people, and Thor knew it all along.



Mises and Hayek wouldn't have been Trump sympathetic.


The man is a stereotypical Ayn Rand protagonist though.
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