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Jun 9 2023 03:56pm
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Yes, absolutely, the evidence all points to there being some form of a creator. God is just a name for the great creator or "Father" if you will, in monotheistic thought. Atleast in my view, God is not a specific God, God refers to the great creator. I believe this is the same for all monotheists including Judaism, Islam etc.

Even in Atheist France they recognized this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Supreme_Being


But "a creator" is very different than "This specific God in Abrahamic religions".
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they are bullchiting you. life is a complete mystery. thats the real trip of the whole thing.


Yes, Life is a mystery that only God knows, but we as God's people try our absolute best to understand God's will & creation, which is all of science and philosophy
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I wouldn't describe evolution as accidental, so much as it is adaptive.



As an Atheist, even I gave the most charitable take on the idea of theistic evolution, wouldn't such observations (at their absolute most) lend themselves to the possibility of simply "a creator". The leap from that to a specific God seems insurmountable from a scientific perspective.


what ever you do with it its only your imagination your believing making you a disgrace to atheism but dont fret about it all atheists/antitheists are like that
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Jun 9 2023 03:58pm
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But "a creator" is very different than "This specific God in Abrahamic religions".


It's not at all, it's the same thing

Only polytheists believe in specific gods. And polytheism has largely gone the way of the dodo because it is irrational

Edit: God is typically depicted in iconography as the old Roman god Jupiter (or the Greek god Zeus). But remember this is just a representation. God is not Jupiter or Zeus.

This post was edited by El1te on Jun 9 2023 03:58pm
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Jun 9 2023 03:58pm
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Yes, Life is a mystery that only God knows, but we as God's people try our absolute best to understand God's will & creation, which is all of science and philosophy


I dont think God would appreciate you advocating for Nazi-like medical experiments on unwilling participants, bud
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Jun 9 2023 03:58pm
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what ever you do with it its only your imagination your believing making you a disgrace to atheism but dont fret about it all atheists/antitheists are like that


I don't know how to decipher this one.
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Jun 9 2023 03:59pm
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It's not at all, it's the same thing

Only polytheists believe in specific gods. And polytheism has largely gone the way of the dodo because it is irrational


"A creator" could be any number of possibilities, to include an Abrahamic God all the way to a rogue AI simulation. I just don't see the scientific evidence that leads one to conviction in a specific creator. But, I suppose that is in-part the role of "faith".
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Jun 9 2023 04:01pm
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"A creator" could be any number of possibilities, to include an Abrahamic God all the way to a rogue AI simulation. I just don't see the scientific evidence that leads one to conviction in a specific creator. But, I suppose that is in-part the role of "faith".


Well it for sure could not be a rogue AI simulation, because then who would have programmed the AI? A supreme being could not possibly be AI by logic alone.
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Jun 9 2023 04:02pm
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"A creator" could be any number of possibilities, to include an Abrahamic God all the way to a rogue AI simulation. I just don't see the scientific evidence that leads one to conviction in a specific creator. But, I suppose that is in-part the role of "faith".


No one ever has said a specific creator - God simply means the creator. It's not specific.

Different religions (Jew, Muslim, Christian) all disagree over what the creator wants for us. They don't disagree over the existence of the creator.
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Jun 9 2023 04:08pm
Quote (El1te @ Jun 9 2023 02:57pm)
Yes, Life is a mystery that only God knows, but we as God's people try our absolute best to understand God's will & creation, which is all of science and philosophy


"macro" evolution is a fairy tale dreamed up over a 100 years ago by a man called darwin. darwin was a reasonable man but the azzhats that came after him had an agenda. with the advancement of science it (macro evolution) hasnt held up and has been an embarrassment to the institution of science. the amount of fraud involved has been staggering. you ever hear of piltdown man? or hackels drawings?
check out this thread, i try to document what i remember. whats astounding is life is nano tech. creation account holding up just fine. ......breath taking
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