Quote (fender @ Oct 14 2020 12:34pm)

back to school, kid - an ad populum is not an argument. to what exactly were your "fuckhead" and "eurotrash" insults "replies in kind / to tone"? to me it seems like you were triggered into oblivion because i called out your idiotic shutdown and vitamin d takes, so you had to resort to childish namecalling, lol.

also, don't assume i didn't notice your massive dodge concerning your desperate reframing of a right wing terrorist plot. again: would you also defend a plan to kidnap and kill the cheeto mussolini based on that 'logic'?

Quote (fender @ Oct 14 2020 10:12am)

lol, santara went full science-denying bigot in this one. imagine your identity is defending a broken system, and you have to resort to crackpot theories to justify it, because the facts simply aren't on your side. that's what propaganda and brainwashing does to the weak, uncritical mind... hilarious.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 14 2020 11:07am)

Lockdowns are the last ditch effort to contain an already widely spreading virus. By the time you get to lockdowns you've already got a ton of community spread. Just comparing rates is insufficient because places that don't lock down didn't lock down don't have as much spread as those that do. There's a substantial bias in the data where lockdowns will always look higher.

You're not doing nearly enough leg work to make these comparisons my dude. This isn't a simple subject that the laymen can realistically asses. You'd better be making tens of hours of spreadsheets to justify your position or you end up making very obvious mistakes like this.

Quote (theCrossbones @ Oct 14 2020 12:46pm)

yes this thread proves the subject is always ignored..
white supremist or militia's become debates about Vitamin D

Quote (dro94 @ Oct 14 2020 01:06pm)

Here we fucking go

Quote (theCrossbones @ Oct 14 2020 01:24pm)

When cops do it, we call it an arrest. When a citizen does it, we call it kidnapping? Her shutdown order has cost thousands of people their rights to a livelihood, which is pretty criminal, for no appreciable gain. They SHOULD arrest her.

one of the most ridiculous statements.. geez let's let militias' decide what they do or don't agree with and take the law into their own hands..
however BLM is terrorist..
wut?

Quote (duffman316 @ Oct 14 2020 10:36am)

Whats this about vitamin d?

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These results demonstrate an inverse relationship between circulating 25(OH)D levels and SARS-CoV-2 positivity. For the entire population those who had a circulating level of 25(OH)D <20 ng/mL had a 54% higher positivity rate compared to those who had a blood level of 30–34 ng/mL. The risk of SARS-CoV-2 positivity continued to decline until the serum levels reached 55 ng/mL. This finding is not surprising, given the established inverse relationship between risk of respiratory viral pathogens, including influenza, and 25(OH)D levels [14–16]. Vitamin D supplementation may reduce acute respiratory infections, especially in people with vitamin D deficiency [17]. A previous study found that each 4 ng/mL increase in circulating 25(OH)D levels was associated with a 7% decreased risk of seasonal infection, a decrement of approximately 1.75% per ng/mL [18]. This is remarkably similar to the 1.6% lower risk of SARS-CoV-2 positivity per ng/mL found in our adjusted multivariable model.

Patients with the lowest circulating levels of 25(OH)D had approximately 5–7% higher absolute SARS-CoV-2 positivity across northern, central, and southern latitudes. Indeed, Covid‐19 diagnoses and particularly mortality exhibit a decreasing worldwide North‐South latitude gradient [19]. The inverse relationship between SARS-CoV-2 positivity and 25(OH)D levels was most striking in predominately black non-Hispanic zip codes, followed by predominately Hispanic zip codes. Although 25(OH)D levels appeared to play a role for all race/ethnicities, patients from predominately black non-Hispanic zip codes had higher SASR-CoV-2 positivity than those from predominately white non-Hispanic zip codes at every 25(OH)D level. Other potential reasons including chronic diseases, occupations, housing, and lifetime risk exposures for the increased impact of COVID-19 on African Americans and Latinos have been published previously [20–22].

Northern and central latitudes, predominately Hispanic zip codes, predominately black non-Hispanic zip codes, age <60 years, and male sex were independently associated with both 25(OH)D levels and SARS-CoV-2 positivity. Yet, both in stratified analyses and in a model that controlled for all of these factors, the relationship between SARS-CoV-2 positivity and circulating 25(OH)D levels remained.

Quote (Santara @ Oct 15 2020 12:22pm)

You're just mad that the American penchant for this mentality is what led us to tell King George to fuck off.

Quote (dro94 @ Oct 15 2020 07:04am)

Almost as mad as the guy that is obsessed with a war that took place in the 1700s and is blissfully unaware that libertarianism is an English concept that we grew out of.

Quote (Skinned @ Oct 15 2020 07:03am)

So rationalization is one way we ignore Right Wing Terrorism. Tacit support is another.

How was this story a week or more old without us bringing it up though? Some boogaloo dudes tried an armed kidnapping of a governor, what would be considered a coup in most places (armed guys coming to harm/depose a head of state) and it totally flew under our radar.

Is it because it was violence directed toward a woman?

If someone tried to kidnap and harm Mike Dewine would we have talked about it? I say probably. Why is this?

Quote (Santara @ Oct 15 2020 01:21pm)

Seeing as the Magna Carta is the essential origin for libertarianism, I can't say I agree you "grew out of it."



I think it's because you're projecting, tbh. I rationalize and lend tacit support because I already hate the government, and it really doesn't matter to me what the gender is for the person ruining life for the citizenry.

Quote (dro94 @ Oct 15 2020 07:28am)

As long as you know your entire philosophy of muh liberty isn't an original or unique take; that it's a seed planted in your psyche from your colonial masters.

Quote (Santara @ 15 Oct 2020 12:54)

An ad populum would have been "everyone agrees you are wrong," which is not what I said. I said everyone knows I respond to tone. Don't come at me with logic when you don't know how it works.

To what exactly? This:



science-denying - a blatant attempt to imply I don't know what I'm talking about
bigot - pretty fucking obvious here
crackpot theories - another shot like "science-denying"
weak, uncritical mind - also pretty fucking obvious

You spew this kind of shit so constantly, to most anyone who bothers to engage you, and have zero fucking clue how it's received. You're quite simply a giant fucking douche, and you act surprised that people push back? Go fuck yourself.

I don't give a fuck what you "noticed," you completely ignored all the scientific information that I presented first, and proceeded with your invective from the get go. So you've already shown zero capacity to engage my points, why would I turn around and engage yours?