Are you gullible / stupid enough to believe that better media coverage would mean Bernie would be ahead right now?

The media didn't make a difference, voters just preferred Biden. If Bernie tried to appeal to older voters with the same dedication you have to blaming the media he might have done better.

Edit: Let's not forget either that you took the exact same line when Corbyn lost badly. Such strong denial...

This post was edited by dro94 on Mar 22 2020 09:23am

The thing you aren't able to accept is that the Democratic party isn't a party of socialists, even though Republicans claim it is and far-left progressives wish it to be. There's many people who will vote Democrat in 2020 who don't want to double or triple the size of government. There's many who don't support key tenets of Medicare For All. There's many who are turned off by Bernie's history of basically being a red, speaking favorably about socialist governments throughout the world.

Bernie's movement in 2016 and 2020 helped to move it left. But the progressive wing will never dominate. They agitate, like the Freedom Caucus used to in the Republican party before Trump got elected.



It's a common theme. If the cranky socialists lose, they blame it on the spooky establishment and dumb voters.

This post was edited by IceMage on Mar 22 2020 10:36am

Tulshit is a dangerous trump supporter who deserve to be deported in the GOP.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Mar 22 2020 11:25am

ahead? questionable considering all the other factors. better off? 100% certain.



that's preposterous. you are 100% wrong. gullible AND stupid.



lol what?! gullible, stupid, AND delusional apparently. get back on your meds, dorothy.





the thing YOU aren't able to accept is that it's artificially kept on this centrist (right wing by every peer nation's standard) course, by coordinated fearmongering and smear campaigns. your 'bernie is talking favourably about socialist governments' talking point is a perfect illustration of that btw. only in america would that scare a significant portion of voters, because you went through decades of red scare propaganda and brainwashing. apparently you don't have the slightest clue how ridiculous that sounds to a non-american.
his 'far-left', 'radical', 'progressive' ideas are widely accepted standards in basically all other developed nations, so when you say 'the progressive wing will never dominate' that might be true because the establishment will be able to keep exploiting americans, and protect itself against the will of the people, but certainly not in terms of support for political ideas.
no, the electorate is considerably more left on many core issues than the dnc establishment (the whole 'people reject key tenets of m4a' talking point is a red herring. while technically true, it is still much closer to what most people support than anything establishment candidates would actually implement - something you keep ignoring to push your 'we don't actually want universal healthcare' narrative, against all the polls that PROVE the opposite) - but hey, keep telling yourself that politicians working for their donors and against the people is what americans want... that's not stupid at all. /s

it's so funny, you can't help yourself but dishonestly suggesting that acknowledging how the dems establishment and corporate media propaganda are promoting centrist, special interest candidates, is somehow conspiratorial or 'spooky'... you can't shame people into denying obvious truths. just because one of my obsessed followers happens to engage in american style denial doesn't mean it's not widely recognised as a corrupt and broken system in the rest of the free world...

fender yet again ranting about something he has zero knowledge on (well that would be any rant of his outside of reciting what is in his favorite text “my struggle)

some reading material for the gullible and dishonest:

https://medium.com/@ryansullivan000/manufacturing-dissent-the-medias-bias-against-bernie-sanders-a84e97d947cb

They put Biden above Bernie on a poll when Biden had 25% and Bernie 28%? Really, that's your excuse why Bernie lost?

lol, you seriously picked just ONE random example, and now act like that's the whole extent of media bias against sanders? stupidity is really too soft a word to describe that. have you watched any of the debates and analysed the framing of the questions? have you fact checked any of the countless lies that biden told? because the moderators and msm outlets sure didn't. if bernie had told even a fraction of biden's lies, we wouldn't hear the end of it.

also, learn to read: i said it's questionable if bernie would be outright winning without the massive msm bias, as there are many other factors at play, but he certainly would be more competitive - so you might as well stop misrepresenting my position. seems, however, that we're both aware that you simply can't win a good faith, fact based argument, so i guess that kind of hackery is what you have to resort to...

lmfao great post my friend!

I'm amused that you blame the MSM for Bernie not doing well when they basically CROWNED him after Nevada. For an entire week, I had to listen to everyone sucking Sander's dick and it was pretty insufferable. IMO, I thought that the media was MUCH tougher on other candidates but I think it depends on what type of media you consume. Print is certainly harder on Sanders in terms of critiquing policy, but cable news was REALLY easy on Sanders.

Anyway, let's get serious about "lies." What lies did the candidates say that were particularly egregious? I don't think Bernie is a liar but he definitely misleads just like any other politician.