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Quote (IceMage @ Jan 22 2018 07:54am)
Technically both are true.


Not really, because it doesn't matter which way those 5 republicans vote if the democrats don't give 9 votes.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 22 2018 08:28am)
Not really, because it doesn't matter which way those 5 republicans vote if the democrats don't give 9 votes.


So how many Republican votes do they have right now?
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Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 22 2018 09:28am)
Not really, because it doesn't matter which way those 5 republicans vote if the democrats don't give 9 votes.


But what if 9 Democrats are willing to vote for the bill but those 5 Republicans still refuse?

Checkmate atheist.
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Quote (IceMage @ Jan 22 2018 08:52am)
But what if 9 Democrats are willing to vote for the bill but those 5 Republicans still refuse?

Checkmate atheist.


Then the republicans would be responsible for keeping the government shut down.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 22 2018 09:06am)
Then the republicans would be responsible for keeping the government shut down.


So.... what you're saying is..... it's both....
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Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 22 2018 07:33am)
Like he said, you're failing to understand the math, willfully or not. "Five republican senators" are not keeping the government shut down, 43 democratic senators are.
The bill requires 60 votes, which means it requires democrats, at least 9 of them.


i'm gonna guess you also held democrats accountable for the ted cruz shutdown
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 22 2018 09:08am)
So.... what you're saying is..... it's both....


what part of "if" didn't they teach you
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Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 22 2018 09:10am)
what part of "if" didn't they teach you


Yeah. So if either side doesnt get their guys on board it won't pass.

That means both Jay Jr.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 22 2018 09:32am)
Yeah. So if either side doesnt get their guys on board it won't pass.

That means both Jay Jr.


If either or both sides don't get their guys on board with keeping the government open on a bill without demands, then either or both sides are responsible
Right now the republicans are on board and the democrats aren't.

I mean this is not hard logic to follow;
Quote (duffman316 @ Jan 22 2018 09:09am)
i'm gonna guess you also held democrats accountable for the ted cruz shutdown


In 2013, the republicans shut down the government and held it hostage with a policy demand. The democrats were willing to keep the government running without any demands, the republicans weren't, hence the tea partiers were responsible
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Quote (excellence @ 22 Jan 2018 10:26)
sure thats why you posted some attempt at an explanation as to why you spent this sunday (like you spend most days) crying about America.


That persecution complex though...

It must suck to believe everyone is out to get you.
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