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Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 22 2018 01:05am)
Obama created DACA by going around congress and saying we just wouldn't enforce the law on the books
Trump ended DACA by simply reversing Obama's decision
A judge said Trump isn't allowed to end DACA because reasons, leaving it in limbo
Now democrats want DACA renewed, and won't vote for immigration reform / border wall without it
Republicans want immigration reform / border wall, and won't vote for DACA without them.
They failed to hammer out a compromise in the middle in time for this budget showdown
Republicans pushed forward a bill that would kick the can down the road a month and give time for more negotiations
Democrats voted against it, causing the government to shut down, holding the government hostage until they get their DACA fix

So we're now at an impasse where democrats won't allow the government to re-open unless they get DACA, but republicans aren't going to hand it to them.


Certainly an objective analysis.


Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 22 2018 12:36am)
Shutdown in a nutshell

https://i.imgur.com/u6FKIhC.jpg


Thanks Obama.


Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 22 2018 07:00am)


Memes for low info voters are effective, as we have seen in PaRD.

It says 5 Republican senators are keeping the govt shut while a handful of Dems are selling out people who have lived as much of their lives here as you or me and are foreign in syntax only.

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Certainly an objective analysis.




Thanks Obama.




Memes for low info voters are effective, as we have seen in PaRD.

It says 5 Republican senators are keeping the govt shut while a handful of Dems are selling out people who have lived as much of their lives here as you or me and are foreign in syntax only.



You dont understand math. Why should anyone take you seriously?
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 22 2018 07:14am)
You dont understand math. Why should anyone take you seriously?


Another nonreply by EndlessSky, big surprise.

The Dems in Congress fucking suck too.

Congress sucks.

Diane Feinstein...Charles Schumer....Nancy Pelosi...what is there to like?

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Quote (Skinned @ Jan 22 2018 08:25am)
Another nonreply by EndlessSky, big surprise.



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Quote (Skinned @ Jan 22 2018 06:25am)
Another nonreply by EndlessSky, big surprise.
The Dems in Congress fucking suck too.
Congress sucks.
Diane Feinstein...Charles Schumer....Nancy Pelosi...what is there to like?


Like he said, you're failing to understand the math, willfully or not. "Five republican senators" are not keeping the government shut down, 43 democratic senators are.
The bill requires 60 votes, which means it requires democrats, at least 9 of them.
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Jan 22 2018 07:00am
Gov still shutdown?
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Jan 22 2018 07:02am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 22 2018 06:00am)


Except the republicans already sabotaged a deal.

Wait that's not convenient for you.
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Jan 22 2018 07:43am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 22 2018 09:02am)
Except the republicans already sabotaged a deal.

Wait that's not convenient for you.


Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 22 2018 08:14am)
You dont understand math. Why should anyone take you seriously?


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Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 22 2018 07:33am)
Like he said, you're failing to understand the math, willfully or not. "Five republican senators" are not keeping the government shut down, 43 democratic senators are.
The bill requires 60 votes, which means it requires democrats, at least 9 of them.


Technically both are true.
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Jan 22 2018 08:15am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 22 2018 07:33am)
Like he said, you're failing to understand the math, willfully or not. "Five republican senators" are not keeping the government shut down, 43 democratic senators are.
The bill requires 60 votes, which means it requires democrats, at least 9 of them.



It means both parties need to compromise, but because republicans have the majority, they can compromise a little bit less.
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