Quote (AspenSniper @ Jun 16 2017 10:45am)

Bad test taker = someone who isn't willing to put in the effort to study without checking their phone/pc every 2 seconds for hours on end until the information you're studying sinks in. Plain and simple. The stressful environment is semi-fair, but I remember I used to be horrible at public speaking. I was so afraid I'd be teased or I'd stutter or say "like or um" too many times, etc. So I learned to be 110% prepared so that I could confidently say the words just as easily as I could sing every word to my favorite song on the radio because I'd listened so many times. When it's second nature, it becomes much easier. That's all test taking is. Practice and study over and over and over and over until you have it so engrained that it sticks and you don't freeze from the stress.

Quote (AspenSniper @ Jun 16 2017 07:45pm)

That's so difficult without knowing the industry. Assuming I'm hiring someone who has 4 years of experience in the field instead of a 4 year degree, I'd take the degree, absolutely, regardless of what it's in. If you're asking me if I'd take a 40 year old over a 22 year old grad, that's a toss up.

People without degrees (and some with) don't understand why it's valued. Likely, you forget 80% of what you learned in college, at least. The reason it's valuable is that it shows you were able to commit to something pretty difficult with your time, effort, and money for at least 4 years consistently, and finish. Anyone can go work, not everyone can consistently continue to do well enough to keep grades up and get a degree over and over for years til completion. That is why I value it so much, and that's why the vast majority of employers for skilled work value it.



Bad test taker = someone who isn't willing to put in the effort to study without checking their phone/pc every 2 seconds for hours on end until the information you're studying sinks in. Plain and simple. The stressful environment is semi-fair, but I remember I used to be horrible at public speaking. I was so afraid I'd be teased or I'd stutter or say "like or um" too many times, etc. So I learned to be 110% prepared so that I could confidently say the words just as easily as I could sing every word to my favorite song on the radio because I'd listened so many times. When it's second nature, it becomes much easier. That's all test taking is. Practice and study over and over and over and over until you have it so engrained that it sticks and you don't freeze from the stress.

Quote (Greet @ Jun 18 2017 02:48am)

Not true. Every company has a different x years of experience = x degree. A lot of them are 7-10 years for a bachelors

Quote (AspenSniper @ Jun 18 2017 02:00pm)

Oh my god I didn't mean people with actual mental disorders. Relax booster seat

Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 18 2017 11:42am)

Are you calling me booster seat because i have a mental disorder?
Classy.

Quote (GetOnYourKnees @ Jun 18 2017 05:14am)

Top 10% of graduates > experience > rest of graduates

People with experience don't really have anything going for them, except for having the experience. Doesn't necessarily say much about their character, drive, ambition etc. Whereas a graduate with a first class honours degree is obviously capable and will, in all probability, end up more capable than the non-graduate following a year or two in industry. Seems like a much better investment.

Not much excuse to not get a top grade in university (imo; except for illnesses etc.) so I'd be much less likely to hire someone with a 2:2 or a third.

Quote (GetOnYourKnees @ Jun 18 2017 01:14pm)

Top 10% of graduates > experience > rest of graduates

People with experience don't really have anything going for them, except for having the experience. Doesn't necessarily say much about their character, drive, ambition etc. Whereas a graduate with a first class honours degree is obviously capable and will, in all probability, end up more capable than the non-graduate following a year or two in industry. Seems like a much better investment.

Not much excuse to not get a top grade in university (imo; except for illnesses etc.) so I'd be much less likely to hire someone with a 2:2 or a third.

Quote (Leevee @ Jun 18 2017 01:37pm)

I don't really agree with this. Experience isn't just quantified in number of years. Interviewers actually ask about what type of experience, what company you're working for, etc.

I'm currently working for a company that has pretty good street cred, and I'm largely doing this to give my career a boost. After 5 years here, I'll be able to get jobs (and wages) that I wouldn't have been able to get with 5 years of experience at a different company.