Quote (Canadian_Man @ Oct 3 2016 05:27pm)
Hey Raynor,
Another question.
Part 1:
A lot of purists say the only supplement that's worth your money is whey. The next tier down of purists say whey and fish oils, and maybe creatine & multivitamins.
On the flip side, there's lots of evidence that says things like the following all work really well:
- citrulline
- betaine
- bcaa's (when timed correctly)
- agmatine sulfate & glycerol/glycine
- carnitine
I am of the mind that the "Any other supplement is a waste of money" message is uninformed. I went out and bought truckloads of the above-mentioned stuff in bulk.
What do you think about supplements, and the common view that you're a sucker if you go for anything more than whey, creatine, vitamins?
Part 2:
I picked up agmatine sulfate, vegetable glycerin, taurine, and citrulline. While the citrulline is for multiple purposes, the four together will be a preworkout pump combination (alongside caffeine and a few other things).
Hydromax is relatively new. It's a trademarked version of glycerol powder, which is concentrated and more absorbable in the body. Glycine is the liquid form and much cheaper to buy. Hydromax is being put in a lot of preworkouts now for the pump. Do you know why glycerol/glycine hasn't become more popular, if it's so effective at producing a pump? And, do you think taking extra ingredients to get a bigger pump will notably improve long-term hypertrophy goals?
I personally can attest that ALL supplements (with rare exceptions) have SOME effect. The value of each largely depends on your goals. If the extra 0.005% muscle mass per year, or 0.1% volume gained each month, or whatever it may be - is worth the money to you, then yes, it's a good value.
The MOST obvious supplements are whey, creatine, vitamins, caffeine, and efa's. They have the LARGEST effect for the money. As you start going down the list, into single aminos, herbal supplements, etc., you continue to see results, but at a diminished rate per the item cost.
That being said, here's one of my supplement guides in order of importance based on my personal experience and research. Disclaimer, there may be a few changes since, but for the most part it is fairly accurate.
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=475107555Supplement Guide