ur grasping at straws here, theres a debate whether min dmg or dex is the most important 6th mod on a bvc ring theres a reason why max/ar/life charms are more sought after than ar/life charms
you need a balance of both. 75ar u gain from dex after being boosted by your skills and gears will end up being ~1% of your total ar and would give you ~1% more chance to hit your target
similar to how having a higher floor dmg can boost your chance of killing your opponent in fewer hits



if your claim is true then theres no reason a similar ring would be considered a trophy 12 years ago and then be a "meh" ring today especially since "nothing regarding the math has changed in d2r"

Min dmaagw has never been desired over Dex for a bvc ring.

There is a reason why corruption circle, the best bvc ring on legacy, which is:
10 FCR
119 AR
15 Dex
39 life
80mana
30 lite res


Was imported, and the imported so many times. Because it is the best combo of stats possible for a bvc ring.

Anyone arguing otherwise just doesn’t lnow what they are talking about.



A FCR / min damage ring has never been considered a trophy to anyone that knows what they are doing.

This post was edited by Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins on Sep 29 2022 04:45pm

9 min damaged, scaled by your ED% bonus, which will be around 750% on a BVC = 76.5 min damage. (9 x 8.5)

76.5 / 2 = 38.25

Where 38.25 is the average damage added

Then apply the pvp penalty to 38.25

38.25 x .17 = 6.5

Where after pvp penalty, 9 min adds 6.5 average damage per hit.

Then vs barbs, people are going to run 50% DR.

6.5 x .5 = 3.25

Barbs have around a 60% double damage chance, depending on if they use highlords + gores or just highlords.

So 3.25 x 1.6 = 5.2

Where after pvp penalty and DR and applying double damage chance, 9 min adds 5.2 average damage per hit.


Given your opponents will average around 4000 life (some more, some less), your 5.2 damage gained from min dmaagw has a .13% chance to lower the amount of hits it takes to kill your opponent.


The 9min damage is completely irrelevant in the context of a duel.

The AR will affect you significantly more than 9min


Was an EZ 5-0

The real trophy 😂

Yes I am

Idk if you’re that sought after that little bit of Dmg sacrifice the 40 life for 20str that adds 1% enhanced Dmg per str point 20% Ed all in all whats that 40hp /w Bo give you? 80-120 extra hp?

This post was edited by TastyTaste on Sep 29 2022 05:15pm

The equation is similar as above.

Barbs problem is not damage.

Barbs problem is AR and being able to absorb more hits.

More life = more hits taken for most duels.

Barbs WW does so much damage, in such a short amount of time, you are 1 WW or 2 WWing most opponents (that don’t have 75% block). You want to incrwsss your AR so that your first hit puts them in fhr animation and then have enoguh life where you can absorb as many hits as possible for when you chase your opponents and find them opportune time to leap namelock telestomp WW (or berserk) them.

The ED from Str is pretty meaningless. But Str is for sure better than min damage.

For reference, 20 Str will add roughly 104 average damage

Compared to 9 mins 38ish average

Which means 20 Str is almost 3x more effective than 9 min

Which means if you wrongly argue against Dex being better than min, Str beats the shit out of min. Yet again making min inferior.

This post was edited by Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins on Sep 29 2022 05:34pm

10 FCR
119 AR
15 Dex
39 Life
80 Mana
30 Lite res

“Best combo of stats possible for a BvC Ring”

If you’re that pressed over attack rating then why not get 5% bonus to attack rating instead of the 30 resistance

5% AR is a suffix
30 resistance is a prefix


And even if both were both prefixes, 30 resistance is the basic equaibelnt of being able to use 3x 3/20/20 instead of 3x 20/11 lightning SCs.

Which means that 30 lightning resistance is 60 AR equivalent as well. Which is then scaled by your AR% bonus. Making that 60 AR around 400 AR.

The 5% AR bonus is only 5% of your base AR. Which your base AR will be something like :
30 base AR for lvl 1
100 Dex after gesr = 500 AR
30x 3/20/20 SCs = 600 AR
120 AR from rare ring
250 AR from raven
= roughly 1500 AR

1500 x .05 = 75

Meaning the 5% AR gives you 75 total AR.


Making 5% ar bonus a meaningless mod anyway.