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Nov 24 2022 07:09am
Quote (peeezy @ Nov 24 2022 06:56am)
How does inorganic material turn into life ?


im not sure, id say impossible


otherwise in biology it happens during photosynthesis
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Quote (eMptyBox @ 24 Nov 2022 07:53)
i just checked

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they cant make life without life present

sorry bud


False again.

Quote (peeezy @ 24 Nov 2022 07:56)
How does inorganic material turn into life ?


It doesn't. Guess what? It doesn't have to be alive to be organic. But then if you had an education you wouldn't say something so ignorant.
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False again.



It doesn't. Guess what? It doesn't have to be alive to be organic. But then if you had an education you wouldn't say something so ignorant.



When I reference inorganic or organic material in the context of this conversation it’s blatantly obvious I mean living things like micro organisms , the very first step of “life”

So not sure what you’re getting at .



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Quote (peeezy @ 24 Nov 2022 18:20)
When I reference inorganic or organic material in the context of this conversation it’s blatantly obvious I mean living things like micro organisms , the very first step of “life”

So not sure what you’re getting at .


Organic chemicals are not dependent on living creatures so your understanding of chemistry is deficient. Organic chemicals are carbon, which can be and is fused in stars completely independent of life.
Micro organisms aren't even the first step, self replicating molecules are. Micro organisms come later.
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Nov 24 2022 06:49pm
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Organic chemicals are not dependent on living creatures so your understanding of chemistry is deficient. Organic chemicals are carbon, which can be and is fused in stars completely independent of life.
Micro organisms aren't even the first step, self replicating molecules are. Micro organisms come later.


Again context matters this isn’t chemistry class so why are you being anal about definitions .
Self replicating molecules are alive ?
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Nov 24 2022 06:53pm
Quote (peeezy @ 24 Nov 2022 19:49)
Again context matters this isn’t chemistry class so why are you being anal about definitions .
Self replicating molecules are alive ?


This is about chemistry which absolutely requires being anal about definitions. Chemistry doesn't work if you aren't. Organic has a specific definition in chemistry.
That's debatable. What does alive mean? Some would say yes, some would say no. I don't have a position as I've yet to see a satisfactory scientific definition of life.
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Nov 25 2022 06:02am
Once again you can't make it without life, organic means carbon based, carbon is result of life forms/ carbon cycle. you can't create life without life, your organic compounds do not animate life

You need a garden.

This post was edited by eMptyBox on Nov 25 2022 06:07am
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Nov 25 2022 06:12am
Oh look

2nd result

"Even with the current advancements in science, we still cannot create life from scratch. However, scientists were able to create a strain of bacteria (E. coli) with a fully synthetic DNA code. It was created using the components of mycoplasma bacteria and a synthetically created genome."

Looks like they can't do it from scratch

O wait, they needed life involved with their synthetic procedures

Wow who would of guessed that
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Quote (Vastet @ Nov 24 2022 07:53pm)
This is about chemistry which absolutely requires being anal about definitions. Chemistry doesn't work if you aren't. Organic has a specific definition in chemistry.
That's debatable. What does alive mean? Some would say yes, some would say no. I don't have a position as I've yet to see a satisfactory scientific definition of life.


But it doesn’t interfere with the conversation , who cares what term I use . And no not by any standard or definition is a molecule considered to be alive .
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Quote (eMptyBox @ 25 Nov 2022 07:02)
Once again you can't make it without life, organic means carbon based, carbon is result of life forms/ carbon cycle. you can't create life without life, your organic compounds do not animate life

You need a garden.


aaaaand you're still wrong.

Quote (eMptyBox @ 25 Nov 2022 07:12)
Oh look

2nd result

"Even with the current advancements in science, we still cannot create life from scratch. However, scientists were able to create a strain of bacteria (E. coli) with a fully synthetic DNA code. It was created using the components of mycoplasma bacteria and a synthetically created genome."

Looks like they can't do it from scratch

O wait, they needed life involved with their synthetic procedures

Wow who would of guessed that


aaaaand still wrong.

Quote (peeezy @ 25 Nov 2022 09:05)
But it doesn’t interfere with the conversation , who cares what term I use . And no not by any standard or definition is a molecule considered to be alive .


Spoken like a grade school dropout insufficiently qualifed in either English or science to have an opinion.
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