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Aug 18 2022 07:11pm
I was reading some commentary by homeless people not too long ago and found the two scariest things they face are the cold and other homeless people who happen to be addicts. That helps put into context the hell these tent cities must be.

Does anyone have any ideas on a final solution for the homeless? I've heard amsterdam does things well



https://thetyee.ca/News/2022/08/18/Inside-Crisis-East-Hastings/

Matthew Hall has been homeless for 15 years, but can’t find a wheelchair-accessible bathroom on East Hastings Street after he was banned from the Carnegie Centre, a community centre at Main and Hastings.

“Sometimes I have to wear a diaper,” he said. “We need more washrooms, more showers — we’re human too.”

Under a tent where a cardboard sign reads “Landlords needed — not SROs,” Kristy Wilson says she refuses to live in a single-room occupancy hotel, a type of housing often offered to homeless people in the Downtown Eastside. The 48-year-old says she lives with PTSD from past assaults and seeing friends beaten and killed.

“Those places are just disgusting,” Wilson told The Tyee, adding that her dog got violently ill after drinking the water in one of the SRO hotels. Violence is common in the hundred-year-old buildings, which are often in poor repair and infested with rodents and pests like bedbugs.

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Aug 18 2022 07:12pm
Have them pick fruit and vegitables. Provide shelter for them and give them meals every day.

oh wait that was slavery.

edit- To anyone who thinks my post is racist. You have never had "Nothing". The homeless people have "Nothing". It's not only about personal belongings it's a mindset.

This post was edited by Mondain on Aug 18 2022 07:16pm
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Aug 18 2022 07:15pm
Easy, kick out the illegal invaders and give the homeless their old jobs.
2 birds, one stone.
America first.

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Aug 18 2022 07:18pm
Did a real life chuckle when I read “final solution”. Awkward way to put it :unsure:

Back to reality I am a firm believer of lifting yourself up. Addict homeless? Drugs are expensive, often much more expensive than bare necessities. I have no pity. There are shitty hotels in every city for extremely cheap weekly rates where many poor people live full time. This is always an option. If you can get highway two or three times a day you can pay $200 a week for a room with all utilities.

It is also extremely easy to find a job. If there is some real condition where your mind is broken to the point you cannot get or keep a job, that is what government programs are actually for. They are abused to the point where we have these problems where the people that truly need the help cannot get it and those who are fully capable can still get free shit.

My solution is to drastically lower access to government programs. Eventually those who can make it by being a productive part of society are forced to do so, leaving room for people who truly need services.

I truly don’t know too much about how Canada works in relation to this. I am speaking on the US here.

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Aug 18 2022 07:19pm
Quote (sirthom @ Aug 18 2022 06:15pm)
Easy, kick out the illegal invaders and give the homeless their old jobs.
2 birds, one stone.
America first.


I like the idea of kicking out illegals but I don't think giving jobs to the homeless would work.

A lot of these people have issues of some sort. Either addiction or mental illness of some kind. Others are simply shitty human beings. Also a lot of them are criminals.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Aug 18 2022 07:20pm
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Aug 18 2022 07:20pm
I am of the opinion that people who suffer from drug addiction need rehabilitation. Throwing them in prison is not that. They are suffering.

Help them overcome drugs, don't facilitate it. Aka don't give them clean pipes, clean needles, etc.

They need support and purpose.

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Aug 18 2022 07:23pm
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I am of the opinion that people who suffer from drug addiction need rehabilitation. Throwing them in prison is not that. They are suffering.

Help them overcome drugs, don't facilitate it. Aka don't give them clean pipes, clean needles, etc.

They need support and purpose.



I like this. Having some sort of employment is a huge step to finding a purpose. Even if it is something seemingly mundane. Being a part of something bigger than yourself is a big step in finding personal responsibility.
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Aug 18 2022 07:24pm
Quote (YeeHaw @ Aug 18 2022 09:23pm)
I like this. Having some sort of employment is a huge step to finding a purpose. Even if it is something seemingly mundane. Being a part of something bigger than yourself is a big step in finding personal responsibility.


Yes! a sense of self purpose, something to wake up for and strive to do better for.
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Aug 18 2022 07:25pm
Quote (YeeHaw @ Aug 18 2022 06:23pm)
I like this. Having some sort of employment is a huge step to finding a purpose. Even if it is something seemingly mundane. Being a part of something bigger than yourself is a big step in finding personal responsibility.


Quote (Mondain @ Aug 18 2022 06:24pm)
Yes! a sense of self purpose, something to wake up for and strive to do better for.


You guys don't realize this but a lot of homeless people aren't like normal people...concepts like personal responsibility and sense of purpose are Greek to them.
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Aug 18 2022 07:26pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 18 2022 09:25pm)
You guys don't realize this but a lot of homeless people aren't like normal people...concepts like personal responsibility and sense of purpose are Greek to them.


I do understand that a percentage of homeless people suffer from mental illnesses.

One Fact that many don't know now a days,.. Back when they shut down mental asylums, they literally dumped mentally ill people onto the streets.
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