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Jun 20 2022 03:47pm
Quote (Annarothsorc @ Jun 20 2022 02:28pm)
Thats true, but I am not here to discuss perception based factors. Lets assume you are aware well enough and can easly handly lower hp pool while maintaining full focus.

I am talking about technical aspects.


FRW is the other stat you're looking for.
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FRW is the other stat you're looking for.


What do you mean?
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What do you mean?


you say stats are useless because the game is too easy.

The only other stat you want then is FRW. Or goldfind I guess.
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Jun 20 2022 05:34pm
life is useless. famous last words.
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I think you have the right idea eg is nice
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Quote (Tinit5190 @ Jun 20 2022 04:12pm)
The higher your life the less you actually have to pay attention. Seems like a perfect combination for SC players. Effeciency with no thought about mob types and affixes, don't see where the thought process went awry.



Pvm is brain dead. Regardless if you play sc or hc
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Jun 20 2022 06:03pm
Quote (El1te @ Jun 21 2022 01:29am)
you say stats are useless because the game is too easy.

The only other stat you want then is FRW. Or goldfind I guess.


Have I said stats are usless? I said overcapped life is usless. It brings you nothing to the table. same goes to overcapped dmg.



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life is useless. famous last words.


too much life. i got 800 on my bowa and she can tele without much worries pretty much everywhere.

Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Jun 21 2022 01:44am)
Pvm is brain dead. Regardless if you play sc or hc


sure bruh but your approach doesnt have to and i am trying to discuss how to improve that.

Quote (escroto @ Jun 21 2022 01:34am)
I think you have the right idea eg is nice


it is. same goes with mf, but stacking that might be troublesome. as I think that too much life is nearly usless, you cant say that about resistance. those has to be capped, and stacking too much mf often might cost those.
thats where skillers come in play- you can stack EG on those (while MF cant be)
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Jun 20 2022 06:12pm
Quote (Annarothsorc @ Jun 20 2022 07:03pm)
Have I said stats are usless? I said overcapped life is usless. It brings you nothing to the table. same goes to overcapped dmg.





too much life. i got 800 on my bowa and she can tele without much worries pretty much everywhere.



sure bruh but your approach doesnt have to and i am trying to discuss how to improve that.



it is. same goes with mf, but stacking that might be troublesome. as I think that too much life is nearly usless, you cant say that about resistance. those has to be capped, and stacking too much mf often might cost those.
thats where skillers come in play- you can stack EG on those (while MF cant be)



The how much life do you need is simply a function of how much damage do you receive vs your max life amount. This ratio is paramount in determining how often you get FHRd.

If adding more life makes it so you don’t get FHRd, life > all

As those frames you are in fhr animation instead of doing damage is much more crucial and efficient than any other option.
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Jun 20 2022 06:47pm
if u get stun locked so often at PvM that you are not performing any attack neither spells then theres something wrong with your game play

fhr is usless for pvm, you could get some for extra safety, why not, but gearing up to that is a kek



Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Jun 21 2022 02:12am)

If adding more life makes it so you don’t get FHRd, life > all


thats regarding pvp and stun lock i suppose.


Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Jun 21 2022 02:12am)

If adding more life makes it so you don’t get FHRd, life > all


that has to be about being stun locked. I said many times i refer to PvM.
sure if u literally tp into a pack of those A5 slashing murderers then yea, life and FHR will be very crucial

Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Jun 21 2022 02:12am)

As those frames you are in fhr animation instead of doing damage is much more crucial and efficient than any other option.


i got my fhr very low, on both casters mele and ranged chars and such hot situtions are rare, very rare. most of mobs dont get into contact with you on meta buids. on suboptiomal builds half of mobs area dead or at fhr before dealing any damage to you.
maybe if someone has terrible positioning and find himself being running around a pack then sure, you might be right


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Jun 20 2022 06:57pm
Quote (Annarothsorc @ Jun 20 2022 07:47pm)
if u get stun locked so often at PvM that you are not performing any attack neither spells then theres something wrong with your game play

fhr is usless for pvm, you could get some for extra safety, why not, but gearing up to that is a kek





thats regarding pvp and stun lock i suppose.




that has to be about being stun locked. I said many times i refer to PvM.
sure if u literally tp into a pack of those A5 slashing murderers then yea, life and FHR will be very crucial



i got my fhr very low, on both casters mele and ranged chars and such hot situtions are rare, very rare. most of mobs dont get into contact with you on meta buids. on suboptiomal builds half of mobs area dead or at fhr before dealing any damage to you.
maybe if someone has terrible positioning and find himself being runningaround a pack then sure, you might be right


Quote (Annarothsorc @ Jun 20 2022 07:47pm)
if u get stun locked so often at PvM that you are not performing any attack neither spells then theres something wrong with your game play

fhr is usless for pvm, you could get some for extra safety, why not, but gearing up to that is a kek





thats regarding pvp and stun lock i suppose.




that has to be about being stun locked. I said many times i refer to PvM.
sure if u literally tp into a pack of those A5 slashing murderers then yea, life and FHR will be very crucial



i got my fhr very low, on both casters mele and ranged chars and such hot situtions are rare, very rare. most of mobs dont get into contact with you on meta buids. on suboptiomal builds half of mobs area dead or at fhr before dealing any damage to you.
maybe if someone has terrible positioning and find himself being runningaround a pack then sure, you might be right



Having the approaite max life is what matters in pvm.

Fhr does not matter if you have the appropriate max life in pvm.

Which is why max life is important and why life GCs still matter in pvm.
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