It seems to be though in d2r from my experience. Chains break easily now and even with 2 frame faster tele they can’t seem to hit me with a nado before I can tele away after they land.

Maybe American druids are bad or maybe Asian zons are bad lol.

Against Druid, just stack life leech, their zoo will heal tf out of you, walk and use lightning fury, you’ll win every time lol
If they don’t recast and you want to use open wounds, throw on a gaze with ias jewel, string of ears, ber Swordback (I use this setup vs druids) and throw fury’s to kill zoo, then lightning bolts or fury to proc open wounds (bolt if they use block). You don’t wanna tele a lot vs druids. Only to reset your walk path, or chase when they run to resummon. But if you chase, don’t follow their path directly. They will 100% be leaving tornados. You more so want to just chase and multi and make it hard for them to recast. The multi will chip them. Also if you can, try to get some guided in there with their summons down. Don’t telestomp them, don’t overcommit to the chase. They want to play up close. You have an advantage from a distance.

Also remember, just because you’re a “bowazon” doesn’t mean you always use your bow. Some fights are won primarily on the java side (barbs, smiters, zons, druids) pretty much all phys chars, it’s favorable to use java side. If they use max block, stack open wounds and still keep some life leech.

My setup vs Druids in 2.4 (I don’t tele much in this matchup)

Vamp gaze 15/40
String of ears
Cats eye (frw/dex, better than highlords in this setup you want max block and the frw is huge vs druids)
Enigma (see above about frw)
Leech ring
Ravenfrost
Ias kb glove
Swordback hold double upgrade with ber
Boots can be either war trav or gores tbh

I beat block druids, non block alike this way. Usually don’t even pull out bow unless they’re offscreen lol. Even easier if you’re allowed to use plague tbh

play it like necro does in necro vs Druid with walk spears but instead of bone spear it’s your fury/bolt

This post was edited by ceejay3 on May 10 2022 12:45pm

Godly advice here.

I love playing vs windys. It's really exciting matchup

Thanks bro! Yeah one of my fav matchups for sure.

Let me explain my reasoning a little more in depth here:

My setup vs Druids in 2.4 (I don’t tele much in this matchup)

Vamp gaze 15/40 (life leech, and DR, you want this over like coa cuz the leech)
String of ears (choose this over dungos for the leech and same 15 dr)
Cats eye (frw/dex, better than highlords in this setup you want max block and the frw is huge vs druids)
Enigma (see above about frw, the +skills is gg for passives, and the strength helps the dmg a lil even)
Leech ring (obviously to leech summons)
Ravenfrost (cannot be frozen, dex, never take this off ever imo)
Ias kb glove (rarely can roll with life leech if you can get it)
Swordback hold double upgrade with ber (ber gives you 51% DR, or you can do an IAS/ed jewel. Use this for the open wounds, really good vs block)
Boots can be either war trav or gores tbh (phys dmg vs open wounds, both are fine. Otherwise, bloody craft boots even work for the leech lmao)


A Druid not recasting is a dead Druid. But a Druid with summons = free healing. So for them, their goal is to win the dmg trade with you. They wanna get in, get a hit or 2, get out. Otherwise, they’re extremely weak. If they don’t recast, throw lightning bolts with open wounds. Even if the lightning bolt doesn’t do much dmg, the open wounds will. Only way to win this matchup as a Druid is to be extremely patient and hope the zon makes a mistake, or wait for the zon’s bo to wear off lol

Don't know how many max block druids you have dueled, or how most druids duel against zons on NA, but on Asia, druids will only summon full zoos before the duel starts, then they don't recast summons anymore except for the oak sage of course, if they find out that you are leeching a lot

The oak sage can absorb 1 hit or 2 for druids and it cannot be leeched. They don't need to tele away to recast oak sage, they can just do it on the spot then go straight for a stomp. If you don't have enough fcr, they will simply chain stomp you, and with max block, there is no way a zon can win a dmg trade with a druid. Nados do way more dmg than any of zon's skills and your trusted strafe and pjs wouldn't do much to them because of their max block and 175plr

Also, a fully geared max block druid would still have around 3.2k max life even without the oak sage, so they are not as 'fragile' as you might think

Before 2.4, your arrows/javs could trigger their block and fhr to lock them in place, but not anymore in this patch as their casting of teleport or nados wouldn't be interrupted anymore by the block and your knockback would give them 1s of fhr immunity

It's sad that top duelers on NA and Asia don't get much chance to duel with each other due to the high ping

This post was edited by Cleav3r on May 11 2022 02:54am

Have you completed the plague telezon guide? Seems like a cool build and would like to hear more

It's quite similar. Basically you have to sacrifice passive skills and put 40 points in plague+synergy instead.
Mb+2zon circlet is even better in that setup. In some matchups 2jav gloves and skillers can be useful.

Thanks! So essentially like this then? https://www.icy-veins.com/d2/amazon-skill-calculator#--*--20*--1*--20*--*--=1--1*-1-*1-1-*--1*1-1-*1--1=-1-*1-20-*--*-20-*-17-*--&1
Also, what is MB?

Put 1 point in Impale and Fury.
About rest of points you have to find your personal perfect balance Get few tokens and start practice.
F.e. since you should have +19 jav skills in basic setup, you don't have to put 20 in synergy. Other people prefer to sacrifice Bow skills and they put more points in Passive skills. If your best game is on bow side then you can do this like above.
Find your own way

Put bit more in Critic.

This post was edited by gratek on May 12 2022 11:46am