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May 19 2022 11:47am
So it's good I guess, if you can push your villain to wear not optimal gear to make weaken one of your attacks. Which is not even the main source of your dmg :)
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May 19 2022 11:50am
Quote (Cleav3r @ May 19 2022 10:32am)
The runeword Plague that can be made on swords and claws will give you level 13-17 cleasing aura when equipped, and a level 16/17 cleasing aura reduces poison length by 78%

With this simple Plague weapon on, a 50k PJ will only deal 400-ish damage, and if they decide to put on some extra PLR gears, your PJ will become literally useless


Quote (Cleav3r @ May 19 2022 10:38am)
All casters can use plague because it also gives you +2 to all skills and a high chance to trigger lower resist. Zons naturally have low resist and with lower resist, they will become very fragile to any elemental damage

When sins use plague, zons will face -57% lite res, and -80% poison res, which will make them suffer hard from LS and Venom
Let alone the 35%+ ds and 25%ow
Plague is the best weapon for sins now against a lot of chars


Using plague sword on casters??

And it's really easy to stack single or double resists up to 350 and not lose much dmg on telebowa.
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May 19 2022 11:54am
Quote (NateFizzle @ May 20 2022 03:41am)
Plague jav isn’t need vs casters and I really doubt many casters are going to sacrifice fcr from weapon to ever run plague. Another moot point.

Also, my zon has max res with stacked light res. It’s not hard to have res and good damage on zons anymore.


They only need one weapon to neutralise your 40 skill points, I doubt casters will not run plague if they know you are a zon with 40 points in PJ

And again, you think you don't need PJ because your caster opponents are all vita build so you can destroy them with buffed guided and strafe
Try some duels with max blocked necros and druids to see if you still think PJ isn't needed
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May 19 2022 11:56am
Quote (Cleav3r @ May 19 2022 10:54am)
They only need one weapon to neutralise your 40 skill points, I doubt casters will not run plague if they know you are a zon with 40 points in PJ

And again, you think you don't need PJ because your caster opponents are all vita build so you can destroy them with buffed guided and strafe
Try some duels with max blocked necros and druids to see if you still think PJ isn't needed


Did you actually read the previous page? We deal with those with OW.

Stop ignoring everything and trying to bench pvp here. You aren't being any productive here
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May 19 2022 12:02pm
Quote (KimSulki84 @ May 20 2022 03:56am)
Did you actually read the previous page? We deal with those with OW.

Stop ignoring everything and trying to bench pvp here. You aren't being any productive here



Have you actually tried it before quoting others' responses lol?

You can only have some chance to trigger ow on jav side, and ow by zons deal only 300 dmg over 8 secs, that's even worse than giving them a plr'ed PJ

I'm not ignoring anything because I tried everything and they didn't work out
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May 19 2022 12:04pm
Quote (Cleav3r @ May 19 2022 11:02am)
Have you actually tried it before quoting others' responses lol?

You can only have some chance to trigger ow on jav side, and ow by zons deal only 300 dmg over 8 secs, that's even worse than giving them a plr'ed PJ

I'm not ignoring anything because I tried everything and they didn't work out


What makes you think I don't?

Put on gores and dracs then you can OW often on bowside too. And that's not that small dmg which can't be ignored.

The point of having plague jav is to force the others to waste stats on wearing plr.

It's all give and take.
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May 19 2022 12:09pm
Quote (KimSulki84 @ May 20 2022 04:04am)
What makes you think I don't?

Put on gores and dracs then you can OW often on bowside too. And that's not that small dmg which can't be ignored.

The point of having plague jav is to force the others to waste stats on wearing plr.

It's all give and take.



Dracs? You do know life tap gear is banned right?

And the whole point of using plague is that they don't need plr gears anymore now as one plague is enough to minimise your PJ dmg

This post was edited by Cleav3r on May 19 2022 12:09pm
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Quote (Cleav3r @ May 19 2022 11:09am)
Dracs? You do know life tap gear is banned right?

And the whole point of using plague is that they don't need plr gears anymore now as one plague is enough to minimise your PJ dmg


Yes I know but is everyone playing tourney?

And yes run Plague instead of others to get plr? So that's not a sacrifice? Your points are all very black and white.
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May 19 2022 12:49pm
Quote (KimSulki84 @ May 20 2022 04:21am)
Yes I know but is everyone playing tourney?

And yes run Plague instead of others to get plr? So that's not a sacrifice? Your points are all very black and white.


Life tap ban isn't tourney specific, it's also applicable in everyday gm duels
In pub duels, your opponents will simply drink a dozen of antidote pots before heading to the moor which is even worse news to zons

And no, to some chars plague isn't really a sacrifice. For example, a max block druids can use plague and stormshield and still hit 99fcr bp and plague will give them protection against poison and -57% cr on their opponents so hurricane can deal some extra dmg

And have you seen how fast a hammerdin can rep his life with a 24×7 cleasing aura on activating the prayer? Even without swapping on any defensive aura gcs (which some hammerdins have started doing), the plague will give them +17-21 heal every 2 secs, which equals to +85-105 rep life, and the amount will double when they charge away with meditation aura on

Since plague glitched to non-ladder, I have seen quite a few usages of it in different situations. Make one and try it

This post was edited by Cleav3r on May 19 2022 12:55pm
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How do you feel about non tele fort in the current meta? I’m considering buying a gmb and a 3os 30frw tiara for a more traditional bowzon with just lightning fury and more passives.

The reason is because I hate cube bo so much that it just makes me play zon much less than my other chars. It’s annoying af in pubs and that’s pretty much all I do.

I just don’t want to spend the fg if it sucks.

Also considering ditching javs on tele bow and just going cta on swap, but part of what makes zon so cool to me is having bowside and javside.
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