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Quote (NEEDdemRARES @ Jun 28 2022 12:55am)
So why would russia want to level a shopping mall with civilians inside..

Somebody important inside?


They are using old missiles, poor training, shit maintenance of equipment + no responsibility whatsoever for pilots for hitting civilian targets instead of military ones. Even more, they will receive awards for hitting shopping centres and schools, just as the regiments committing Bucha massacre where promoted to Honorary guard.

Its not like we are dealing a military mind here that has set of objectives to achieve, russia has been hitting most random targets, there is well documented evidence of them using late soviet era/1990s maps and hitting targets that no longer exist or function as such.
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Jun 27 2022 04:28pm
Quote (Lvivz @ 27 Jun 2022 15:25)
They are using old missiles, poor training, shit maintenance of equipment + no responsibility whatsoever for pilots for hitting civilian targets instead of military ones. Even more, they will receive awards for hitting shopping centres and schools, just as the regiments committing Bucha massacre where promoted to Honorary guard.

Its not like we are dealing a military mind here that has set of objectives to achieve, russia has been hitting most random targets, there is well documented evidence of them using late soviet era/1990s maps and hitting targets that no longer exist or function as such.


Weird. Between aid from all nations, Ukraine has received several hundred billion in armament. If Russia is so inept, how has Ukraine not simply turned around and conquered Russia?

Something about your claims doesn't ring true. :)
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Jun 27 2022 04:38pm
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Weird. Between aid from all nations, Ukraine has received several hundred billion in armament. If Russia is so inept, how has Ukraine not simply turned around and conquered Russia?

Something about your claims doesn't ring true. :)


Several Hundread Billion in armament? What are you smoking insane Bob?

Russia is inept and their progress especially when they attempted to take Kiev was laughable militarily speaking, however Ukrainian army faces lots of the very same problems.
Russia has 100s of old Soviet era artillery weapons and systems, in some areas as around Severodonetsk Ukraine was outgunned 20 to 1


Check your information prior to posting bud :)

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Jun 27 2022 04:49pm
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Several Hundread Billion in armament? What are you smoking insane Bob?

Russia is inept and their progress especially when they attempted to take Kiev was laughable militarily speaking, however Ukrainian army faces lots of the very same problems.
Russia has 100s of old Soviet era artillery weapons and systems, in some areas as around Severodonetsk Ukraine was outgunned 20 to 1


Check your information prior to posting bud :)


Since the start of the conflict the US has provided over $56 billion, primarily in armament, to Ukraine. The UK has provided over $40 Billion. That's near $100 Billion worth of weaponry by itself, from just two nations.

If Russia were as backwards and inept as you claim, with as shitty of equipment, seems like Ukraine, or any other nation in Europe, should have nothing to fear from them.

Likewise, your claim that they have no set objectives is demonstrably false. They laid their objectives on the table from day 1.

1. The Donbas republics are independent of Ukraine, as is the Republic of Crimea. The Ukrainian government will acknowledge that fact and withdraw it's Asov Nazis from the region.
2. NATO exists as a military alliance to combat the USSR. The USSR is gone. It has been turned into a way for Americans and western Europeans to stage troops and weapons pointed at Moscow. Ukraine must agree in perpetuity to never join NATO.

Simple. Easy. I've seen no releases from the Russian Government that they at any point wanted to capture or control Kiev. In fact, for anyone who knows anything about military strategy, the "line of tanks" was there for a very specific purpose: To make the Ukrainian government feel that they needed to defend Kiev, so rather than sending conscripts from Kiev into the Donbas region they would keep them at home to "defend against the approaching threat" that appeared overnight, and hasn't moved more than a mile in any direction ever since. :)
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Jun 27 2022 04:55pm
Why aren't more countries citizens upset about the deaths on both sides?

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seems like nobody cares anymore, it's not being pushed by the media.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 28 2022 01:49am)
Since the start of the conflict the US has provided over $56 billion, primarily in armament, to Ukraine. The UK has provided over $40 Billion. That's near $100 Billion worth of weaponry by itself, from just two nations.

If Russia were as backwards and inept as you claim, with as shitty of equipment, seems like Ukraine, or any other nation in Europe, should have nothing to fear from them.

Likewise, your claim that they have no set objectives is demonstrably false. They laid their objectives on the table from day 1.

1. The Donbas republics are independent of Ukraine, as is the Republic of Crimea. The Ukrainian government will acknowledge that fact and withdraw it's Asov Nazis from the region.
2. NATO exists as a military alliance to combat the USSR. The USSR is gone. It has been turned into a way for Americans and western Europeans to stage troops and weapons pointed at Moscow. Ukraine must agree in perpetuity to never join NATO.

Simple. Easy. I've seen no releases from the Russian Government that they at any point wanted to capture or control Kiev. In fact, for anyone who knows anything about military strategy, the "line of tanks" was there for a very specific purpose: To make the Ukrainian government feel that they needed to defend Kiev, so rather than sending conscripts from Kiev into the Donbas region they would keep them at home to "defend against the approaching threat" that appeared overnight, and hasn't moved more than a mile in any direction ever since. :)



lol im not even going to read this rubbish, first of all US has passed a $40 Billion land-lease, its not the same as sending $40 billion worth of weapons to Ukraine right away, in fact majority of these funds are yet to be used to send Ukraine armanents as part of this aid package.

$40 billion UK? What lol?

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Britain said on May 20 that it has committed $566m so far to supporting the Ukrainian military. The government said the aid included 120 armoured vehicles, 5,800 anti-tank missiles, five air defence systems, 1,000 rockets, and 4.5 tonnes of explosives.Jun 5, 2022


So in one month UK sent 39.5 billions in weapons?



Just based on this, its obvious that you are a premature teen with sand in his head, and I have better things to do than point out bs in your drivel.

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Jun 27 2022 05:07pm
US paid off Ukrainse dept to the rothchilds.

The Rothschilds gave Ukraine financial aid to build the economy, they spent the money on social bs and depted on what they owed.

US is supporting ukraine because it's now an investment in that region of the world.

US basically owns Ukraine for paying off it's dept to the Rothchilds
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Jun 27 2022 05:09pm
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US paid off Ukrainse dept to the rothchilds.

The Rothschilds gave Ukraine financial aid to build the economy, they spent the money on social bs and depted on what they owed.

US is supporting ukraine because it's now an investment in that region of the world.

US basically owns Ukraine for paying off it's dept to the Rothchilds


Of course, but now that you know theyve all been exposed, they will surely have to come up with better plan to fool you!
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Jun 27 2022 05:10pm
Quote (Lvivz @ Jun 27 2022 07:09pm)
Of course, but now that you know theyve all been exposed, they will surely have to come up with better plan to fool you!


fool me from what? It was never a secret.

Russia wanted that land and now the US is "protecting" it for regional access beyond nato.
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Jun 27 2022 05:12pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 28 2022 01:49am)
Since the start of the conflict the US has provided over $56 billion, primarily in armament, to Ukraine. The UK has provided over $40 Billion. That's near $100 Billion worth of weaponry by itself, from just two nations.

If Russia were as backwards and inept as you claim, with as shitty of equipment, seems like Ukraine, or any other nation in Europe, should have nothing to fear from them.

Likewise, your claim that they have no set objectives is demonstrably false. They laid their objectives on the table from day 1.

1. The Donbas republics are independent of Ukraine, as is the Republic of Crimea. The Ukrainian government will acknowledge that fact and withdraw it's Asov Nazis from the region.
2. NATO exists as a military alliance to combat the USSR. The USSR is gone. It has been turned into a way for Americans and western Europeans to stage troops and weapons pointed at Moscow. Ukraine must agree in perpetuity to never join NATO.

Simple. Easy. I've seen no releases from the Russian Government that they at any point wanted to capture or control Kiev. In fact, for anyone who knows anything about military strategy, the "line of tanks" was there for a very specific purpose: To make the Ukrainian government feel that they needed to defend Kiev, so rather than sending conscripts from Kiev into the Donbas region they would keep them at home to "defend against the approaching threat" that appeared overnight, and hasn't moved more than a mile in any direction ever since. :)


https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/17/russia-ukraine-war-summary-of-weapons-us-has-given-to-ukraine.html

5.6 billion was given to Ukraine as of June 17th by the USA in direct military aid

Hundreads of billions :lol:
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