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izParagonzi
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Jan 20 2022 03:23pm
Quote (NR1 @ Jan 21 2022 05:17am)
Shamans is not ep and has never been (which is why they drop white items)

Quests that can be found while whistle is;
Bits
Hack
Shamans
Swarm

But to do so you need xx steps already explored / encounters met


Thanks, always thought they were since they are pretty tough compared to some of the Evil Presences around.

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Jan 20 2022 03:58pm
Quote (Matthi @ Jan 20 2022 11:22am)
nobody really knows, it is just a fact that you can't whistle for any of the quests without at least exploring some before; same reason why you'll never find a quest within the first couple steps; there has to be some sort of step counter that is preventing quests to spawn before you reached it, only spending time in the cata without moving is not helping to spawn




shamans are no eps

and you can whistle for them



Ah ok. Thanks for the info, it is very helpful! Will use this in the future
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Jan 20 2022 04:36pm
Quote (Nemo-dude @ Jan 21 2022 10:58am)
Ah ok. Thanks for the info, it is very helpful! Will use this in the future


If I remember correctly, you won't be able to solo this objective. EDIT: Shamans.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jan 20 2022 04:37pm
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Quote (izParagonzi @ 20 Jan 2022 23:36)
If I remember correctly, you won't be able to solo this objective. EDIT: Shamans.


Correct, must be 3 or more players in a game to be able to spawn them.
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Jan 20 2022 06:37pm
Quote (NR1 @ Jan 20 2022 06:17am)
Shamans is not ep and has never been (which is why they drop white items)

Quests that can be found while whistle is;
Bits
Hack
Shamans
Swarm

But to do so you need xx steps already explored / encounters met


Hey Nic, I thought they used to be normal mobs but then Paul updated them and now they’re EPs? I thought they don’t drop whites anymore since then… I’m not that active rn so maybe it got changed again lol
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Jan 20 2022 07:58pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jan 20 2022 05:25am)
Shamans are EPs if I remember correctly and won't spawn with whistliing, unless it has changed?

Four Corners don't give you an EP notice when you hit a corner, but they are EPs I believe.



I can confirm that four corner monsters are 2 x 3 times stronger than your typical ep’s…..drop rate is about the same. But the convenience is that they can always be found in the corners.
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Quote (CARTRACK @ Jan 21 2022 02:58pm)
I can confirm that four corner monsters are 2 x 3 times stronger than your typical ep’s…..drop rate is about the same. But the convenience is that they can always be found in the corners.


Correct, my statement is that there are NO implications (e.g. A horde of ... etc) was implied, just like trying to complete "Pinch of Evil" (we know that you have to have a MINIMUM of 3 Evil Presence spawn), but, you do NOT know if it was a quest like SHAMANS which will give you notice (and ARE NOT evil presence).

View your logs to contradict what I have stated... only some objectives can be noticeable from the text provided and others are NOT.
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Jan 20 2022 08:48pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jan 20 2022 06:08pm)
Correct, my statement is that there are NO implications (e.g. A horde of ... etc) was implied, just like trying to complete "Pinch of Evil" (we know that you have to have a MINIMUM of 3 Evil Presence spawn), but, you do NOT know if it was a quest like SHAMANS which will give you notice (and ARE NOT evil presence).

View your logs to contradict what I have stated... only some objectives can be noticeable from the text provided and others are NOT.



No argument there, 4 corners will not leave a message when you land on the corner, you just get a super difficult ep. Same goes for treasure pest (which looks like a treasure chest that wants to eat you instead of reward you), sneaky (which also doesn’t leave a text but when you keep attacking it for 0 damage then you realize you are dealing with sneaky), etc…..etc…..
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Quote (BWConformity @ Jan 20 2022 07:37pm)
Hey Nic, I thought they used to be normal mobs but then Paul updated them and now they’re EPs? I thought they don’t drop whites anymore since then… I’m not that active rn so maybe it got changed again lol



Shamans still drop whites.

Paul’s fix for people farming shamans for high level whites was to de spawn them at 46
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Jan 21 2022 07:04am
Quote (slushslush @ Jan 21 2022 02:24am)
Shamans still drop whites.

Paul’s fix for people farming shamans for high level whites was to de spawn them at 46


Ahh okay thanks Slushie! It's been a minute since I've done shaman so I probably misremembered.
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