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Jan 17 2022 06:49pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Jan 17 2022 06:40pm)
you dont have the foggiest idea what the thread is pointing out.

"peer review" didnt catch chit. it was peer reviewed and published because they "liked it" it was chit science and it was chit peer review


"That paper has now been retracted. The reason? A member of Szostak’s lab named Tivoli Olsen could not replicate the results. Then when she reviewed the results that had been published, she found they had been misinterpreted."

It was only peer reviewed after publication. Seriously learn to read guy.
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Jan 17 2022 07:08pm
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"That paper has now been retracted. The reason? A member of Szostak’s lab named Tivoli Olsen could not replicate the results. Then when she reviewed the results that had been published, she found they had been misinterpreted."

It was only peer reviewed after publication. Seriously learn to read guy.


and then it was retracted. it was a chit peer review and a chit publication.
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Jan 17 2022 07:19pm
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and then it was retracted. it was a chit peer review and a chit publication.


Find a hole and talk to it because that's your cognitive peer.
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Jan 17 2022 07:24pm
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Find a hole and talk to it because that's your cognitive peer.


1986
Walter Gilbert, a Harvard molecular biologist, was the first to use the term "RNA World" in an article published in 1986. The hypothesis posists that DNA later became the genetic material as a result of evolution because RNA was a relatively unstable molecule

Nobel Winner Retracts Own Paper in 'Definitely Embarrassing ...
Dec 6, 2017 — Szostak told Retraction Watch on Tuesday that the errors in the paper ... some scientists hypothesize, there was no DNA but there was RNA.


in 2017 it was retracted because some one just happend to decide it would be fun? to do the the experiment again. So for the first time "repeatable" came into play.

whats that? 32 fukn years later???? what a crok of chit. thanks for showing up expose even morre of the atheist shit science.

This post was edited by TiStuff on Jan 17 2022 07:25pm
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Quote (Subwoofer @ Jan 17 2022 05:19pm)
Find a hole and talk to it because that's your cognitive peer.


i say out little conversation was productive. I never thought of looking at the time frame between the time mRNA world hypothesis was published and when it was retracted. fukn 32 fukn years later lol part of that rigorous testing they all brag about no doubt.

" The reason? A member of Szostak’s lab named Tivoli Olsen could not replicate the results."
(betting thats a bullchit statement fished out of your subjective reasoning. bet they never even knew each other. was unaware of the mRNA scam.)

this little conversation has brought motivation. I just might open up a new thread. maybe title it
""history of atheist shit science" and their "dick riders"" (people that actually believe any thing they say uncritically are the "dick riders")
my first article would be about "pilt down man" probably the biggest scandal in science history
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Jan 18 2022 08:56pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Jan 17 2022 07:24pm)
1986
Walter Gilbert, a Harvard molecular biologist, was the first to use the term "RNA World" in an article published in 1986. The hypothesis posists that DNA later became the genetic material as a result of evolution because RNA was a relatively unstable molecule

Nobel Winner Retracts Own Paper in 'Definitely Embarrassing ...
Dec 6, 2017 — Szostak told Retraction Watch on Tuesday that the errors in the paper ... some scientists hypothesize, there was no DNA but there was RNA.


in 2017 it was retracted because some one just happend to decide it would be fun? to do the the experiment again. So for the first time "repeatable" came into play.

whats that? 32 fukn years later???? what a crok of chit. thanks for showing up expose even morre of the atheist shit science.


Jesus man........fine. As soon as you can understand this entire statement in totality and how every single term applies and understand what the misinterpretation was please stop talking out of your depth.

" We the authors are retracting this Article because our efforts to repeat and follow up on the results have been unsuccessful. Specifically, we have been unable to reproduce observations suggesting that arginine-rich peptides allow the non-enzymatic copying of an RNA template in the presence of its complementary strand (Fig. 4e). We originally dismissed variability in these experiments as resulting from variability in the snap cooling of samples following thermal denaturation. However, we now understand that the data reported in the published article are the result of false positives that arose from an incorrectly designed experiment in which random errors, including transfer and concentration errors, affected the ratio of the concentrations of the RNA template and its complementary strand. This resulted in false positives that were misinterpreted as template copying in the presence of a complementary strand, where in reality these reactions did not contain enough complementary strands to completely inhibit the reaction.

Subsequent experiments suggested that arginine-rich peptides may not slow the reannealing of complementary strands (Fig. 3), and that what we had previously interpreted as a decrease in annealing rate was actually an artefact due to slow coalescence or strand exchange between droplets of RNA–peptide coacervate, as well as droplet coalescence and settling that led to decreased fluorescence intensity. Similarly, the changing circular dichroism spectra shown in Figure 2c, which were originally interpreted to be the result of a change in the global helical structure of RNA upon peptide binding, may also be an artefact due to, for example, loss of signal or light scattering. Although the binding of arginine-rich peptides to RNA does form condensed-phase droplets, and although most of the RNA does reside within the condensed phase, follow-up experiments to confirm that non-enzymatic RNA polymerization occurs within these coacervate droplets have been inconclusive (Fig. 5d).

The experiments showing that vesicles are stable in the presence of arginine-rich peptides (Supplementary Figure 26, by N. Kamat), and the failure of acidic peptides to condense RNA (Supplementary Figure 8, by K. Adamala) have been reproduced. However, since the main conclusions of our paper are incorrect, all of the authors are now retracting the Article. The authors would like to thank Dr Tivoli Olsen for her extensive efforts to unravel the errors in our Article and we apologize to the scientific community for any confusion arising from our publication."
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Jan 18 2022 10:01pm
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Jesus man........fine. As soon as you can understand this entire statement in totality and how every single term applies and understand what the misinterpretation was please stop talking out of your depth.

" We the authors are retracting this Article because our efforts to repeat and follow up on the results have been unsuccessful. Specifically, we have been unable to reproduce observations suggesting that arginine-rich peptides allow the non-enzymatic copying of an RNA template in the presence of its complementary strand (Fig. 4e). We originally dismissed variability in these experiments as resulting from variability in the snap cooling of samples following thermal denaturation. However, we now understand that the data reported in the published article are the result of false positives that arose from an incorrectly designed experiment in which random errors, including transfer and concentration errors, affected the ratio of the concentrations of the RNA template and its complementary strand. This resulted in false positives that were misinterpreted as template copying in the presence of a complementary strand, where in reality these reactions did not contain enough complementary strands to completely inhibit the reaction.

Subsequent experiments suggested that arginine-rich peptides may not slow the reannealing of complementary strands (Fig. 3), and that what we had previously interpreted as a decrease in annealing rate was actually an artefact due to slow coalescence or strand exchange between droplets of RNA–peptide coacervate, as well as droplet coalescence and settling that led to decreased fluorescence intensity. Similarly, the changing circular dichroism spectra shown in Figure 2c, which were originally interpreted to be the result of a change in the global helical structure of RNA upon peptide binding, may also be an artefact due to, for example, loss of signal or light scattering. Although the binding of arginine-rich peptides to RNA does form condensed-phase droplets, and although most of the RNA does reside within the condensed phase, follow-up experiments to confirm that non-enzymatic RNA polymerization occurs within these coacervate droplets have been inconclusive (Fig. 5d).

The experiments showing that vesicles are stable in the presence of arginine-rich peptides (Supplementary Figure 26, by N. Kamat), and the failure of acidic peptides to condense RNA (Supplementary Figure 8, by K. Adamala) have been reproduced. However, since the main conclusions of our paper are incorrect, all of the authors are now retracting the Article. The authors would like to thank Dr Tivoli Olsen for her extensive efforts to unravel the errors in our Article and we apologize to the scientific community for any confusion arising from our publication."


sure the hel didnt read that. i bet it was paragraphs of "dick riding"
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Jan 19 2022 09:49am
Quote (TiStuff @ Jan 18 2022 10:01pm)
sure the hel didnt read that. i bet it was paragraphs of "dick riding"


Thanks for finally admitting you we're completely ignorant of what actually happened and have no real knowledge of any scientific field.
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Jan 19 2022 09:54am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Jan 19 2022 07:49am)
Thanks for finally admitting you we're completely ignorant of what actually happened and have no real knowledge of any scientific field.


your claiming then RNA world hypothesis wasnt retracted ...............
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years ago but less than a decade ago i went on a quest seeking "the truth of it all" and i have discovered many things.


Seeking "the truth" yet continually references bitchute.


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